smoothshooter
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sigp45 220 puts it well.
10 year stopping power study
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sigp45 220 puts it well.
smoothshooter
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In have always figured that the reason the weekend shooting numbers in Chicago every week do not have a higher percentage of fatalities is because the most common round used is probably 9mm 115 gr. FMJ
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Had the caliber discussion with a LEO neighbor who was the our county Sheriff's firearms instructor until he retired, as well a member of the officer involved shooting investigation team.
His position was carry the caliber you can put rounds on target in the fastest amount of time. After that conversation I researched multiple studies that stated much the same, multiple hits were more important than caliber alone.
One study made a solid point - a citizen in a self defense scenario is trying to break off the attack and fast hits on an attacker are the best way to do it. Conversely, LEO's are in the gunfight until it ends, having to put down their targets, not drive them off.
Recently watched online footage of a skilled shooter using both a 365 9mm and a 365 .380. After putting a couple of hundred of timed rounds down range the .380 had a significant advantage in rounds on target within the same time frame due to the enhanced control of the lesser recoil handgun.
His position was carry the caliber you can put rounds on target in the fastest amount of time. After that conversation I researched multiple studies that stated much the same, multiple hits were more important than caliber alone.
One study made a solid point - a citizen in a self defense scenario is trying to break off the attack and fast hits on an attacker are the best way to do it. Conversely, LEO's are in the gunfight until it ends, having to put down their targets, not drive them off.
Recently watched online footage of a skilled shooter using both a 365 9mm and a 365 .380. After putting a couple of hundred of timed rounds down range the .380 had a significant advantage in rounds on target within the same time frame due to the enhanced control of the lesser recoil handgun.
I just love "stopping power" threads! LOL! Just like best motor oil threads on motorcycle forums....I have NOT analysed any data on handgun stopping power but I am TOTALY certain that if my life depended on a one stop shot I would be using a 12 gauge shotgun with No.1 Buck. But the best bet is to avoid the places where the risks are that high. For people like me who already have extremely low odds of running into a thug intent on doing me harm...I would be happy to have a easily concealable, light handgun in just about any caliber. Thugs are stupid but none of them WANT to get shot with anything...
Precisely my starting point in my page one reply #31.
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"Same as it ever was."
smoothshooter
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Psychological stops are more of a thing with humans than animals.
smoothshooter
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Avoiding bad Bad Places is good when you can, but the bad people don’t always stay in the Bad Places.
The Good Places are where most of the Good Stuff is.
