1911 fire more then once with single trigger pull?

[Greyman50]

Holding the hammer back with ones thumb was Mandatory on the Army team. Better safe than sorry.

 

[AJ]

Holding the hammer back with ones thumb was Mandatory on the Army team. Better safe than sorry.

I was taught to pull the trigger as the slide was being released. This locked the sear/hammer interface. Then to release the trigger and pull it for my first shot. Was taught this by the Match Shooters on the teams. Try it, it works.

 

[shawn mccarver]

I talked to a guy today who says he inherited a 1911 that had not been fired since before WWII. He said it was in good shape, but he took it to a gunsmith for a check up. The gunsmith said it had a broken or filed down part and would have emptied the gun with a single pull of the trigger. I have heard of this for years, but have never seen it or talked to anyone who has. I saw a 1911 that had a " custom trigger job" that would sometimes drop the hammer to half cock after a shot. But I have never seen one fire more than once per trigger pull. Does this actually happen? Or is it just an urban legend?

It has never happened, but I have seen it happen. Kitchen table trigger job that could have gotten people killed as the shooter, surprised by it, was barely able to hold the gun, and I suspect the last round or two went way up high over the berm on the range as the 7-round mag empties in a flash, although it did not go high enough to put a hole in the roof of the outdoor range firing point.

 

[Greyman50]

K, who has fired a 1911 with a heat treated hardened sear? We had a few on the Army team for a while. When a hardened sear breaks its a mess for the armorer. I forget the rockwell scale number but they bordered on being brittle.

 

[Hawg Rider]

Prohibition Era

Some of you Texicans have probably heard of Hyman Lebman. He was a Texas gunsmith who modified firearms for gangsters (Baby Face Nelson, Dillinger, etc.) during the prohibition era. One of his most popular mods was a fully automatic 1911 machine pistol. As others have stated, it's probably fairly easy to accomplish if you know what you're doing, but certainly not safe.

 

[AJ]

K, who has fired a 1911 with a heat treated hardened sear? We had a few on the Army team for a while. When a hardened sear breaks its a mess for the armorer. I forget the rockwell scale number but they bordered on being brittle.

Us, peons in the Corps never saw those. If we did would not have known what we were looking at!

 

[Ethang]

Filing down the firing pin?? Makes a gun go full auto?? I believe that would make it not fire......

Is this really the first time you heard this?

Never hung out in a gunshop with a retired Marine sniper that had more kills in Nam than Hathcock?


and for the record I said..."fully semi auto" ....(insert winking emoji)

 

[AJ]

Is this really the first time you heard this?

Never hung out in a gunshop with a retired Marine sniper that had more kills in Nam than Hathcock?


and for the record I said..."fully semi auto" ....(insert winking emoji)

excuse me, I misread your post. Never had heard of filing a firing pin before except to keep a gun from firing. Have seen a couple refaced to improve the strike of the firing pin.

Who would that sniper have been?

 

[Greyman50]

Knew a guy that ground off the front end of a 1911 firing pin so his kids would not “ get in trouble”. Always wondered why he didn’t just keep it in the safe? Some people….

 

[Abbynormal]

20 or so years ago, the Marion Cty Fish & Game Assoc. in Indy,
had an incident where a member used a Ransom rest with a
.45 1911a1. They pulled the lanyard and the gun fired and then
it accidentally doubled without pulling the trigger.

The shooters stopped and put the Ransom rest away and went home
not knowing a slug exited the range.

A car at the Goodyear tire shop 3/4 of a mile away, in the direct line of where the gun was shot had a .45 slug shatter a window.

A LEO investigation and a club lawyer armed with "Hatcher's Notebook" showed how the slug exactly followed Hatcher's data. And the shooter
rightfully came forward and told the truth about the .45 doubling.

The club paid for the repair to the car and banned Ransom rests on the firing line.

 

[stansdds]

20 or so years ago, the Marion Cty Fish & Game Assoc. in Indy,
had an incident where a member used a Ransom rest with a
.45 1911a1. They pulled the lanyard and the gun fired and then
it accidentally doubled without pulling the trigger.

The shooters stopped and put the Ransom rest away and went home
not knowing a slug exited the range.

A car at the Goodyear tire shop 3/4 of a mile away, in the direct line of where the gun was shot had a .45 slug shatter a window.

A LEO investigation and a club lawyer armed with "Hatcher's Notebook" showed how the slug exactly followed Hatcher's data. And the shooter
rightfully came forward and told the truth about the .45 doubling.

The club paid for the repair to the car and banned Ransom rests on the firing line.

The Ransom Rest was not the problem, but I understand how easy it is for range management to react and over-react to an incident.

 

[SAFireman]

Some of you Texicans have probably heard of Hyman Lebman. He was a Texas gunsmith who modified firearms for gangsters (Baby Face Nelson, Dillinger, etc.) during the prohibition era. One of his most popular mods was a fully automatic 1911 machine pistol. As others have stated, it's probably fairly easy to accomplish if you know what you're doing, but certainly not safe.

yeah, Lebman in San Antonio, TX

 

[AJ]

The Ransom Rest was not the problem, but I understand how easy it is for range management to react and over-react to an incident.

Typical knee-jerk reaction from the uninformed. Unable to comprehend that the Ransom Rest only trips the trigger once and only once when cycled. An dthat the only other variable was the pistol.

 

[Greyman50]

“People” are problem with just about any firearm “ incident”.