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What part of Virginia are you in? I've seen them personally in Henrico, Chesterfield, Spotsylvania, and along the Blue Ridge Parkway, so they're around.



When we lived in Spotsylvania, up on the Rapadan, my wife had one follow along behind her one evening when she was walking her dogs. She had no idea what it was, but when she described the "funny acting dog" I knew what it was. After that she never left the house without a gun. One of her dogs later just vanished. I always suspected a 'yote got him.
I live in Hanover, I have seen one that had been shot. We recently got an email from our neighbors that say they have seen them around. I doubt my wife would shoot one, she's already afraid of our bumper crop of copperheads, I killed 4 in my yard a couple of weeks ago.

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I mean this question honestly so please don't flame me. why so much hate for a coyote? eating livestock? I saw the post on the pet getting killed. don't coyotes kill snakes and other vermin? they are said to be in my area of Va but not in large numbers

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Rabbits, squirrels, fawns and any ground nesting birds such as turkeys and quail are all prey, as well as smaller household pets.
 
I mean this question honestly so please don't flame me. why so much hate for a coyote? eating livestock? I saw the post on the pet getting killed. don't coyotes kill snakes and other vermin? they are said to be in my area of Va but not in large numbers

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Akoda—I respect you tremendously for having the courage to ask. I see you are fairly new here—this is a gentleman and ladies forum. You need not fear "flaming." The gentlemen that run this form won't allow that sort of behavior. Welcome and listen to these hunters and outdoorsman responding. They know what of they speak.
 
One of the guys that hunts with us has a friend who found a coyote den on his property, inside the city limits of a medium sized town. He put up a game camera and counted 23 fawns that were dragged to the den by the coyotes during one spring.

I don't understand this. The guy sets up the camera and watches for the entire spring while the coyotes kill 23 fawns? I wonder did he wait until spring was over before telling his hunting buddies about it? It doesn't make sense to me for someone to sit back and watch and document coyote predation for weeks/months and not do anything about it, inside the city limits or not. North Carolina law allows coyotes to be "shot at any time when caught in the act of predating."

If I'd seen that coyote dragging just the second fawn to the den, I wouldn't have just sat back and looked at photos of him doing it. He'd have been a goner next time I saw him.

They have virtually destroyed hunting in my home county.

In Wake County in 2018-19, there were 1563 whitetail deer taken legally, and that includes 819 antlered bucks. The rest were spikes/button bucks and does. That's a lot of deer for a county where everyone isn't a hunter. And that doesn't include the deer taken illegally by some of those rural good ol' boys who drive around jacklightin' at night or just "harvesting" deer from the road without a hunting license and not reporting it. Doesn't sound to me like the coyotes have destroyed hunting in Wake County.
 
I saw a PBS documentary about wolves in Southern Canada. They mentioned that in the Chicago area the top canine predator was a wolf/coyote hybrid, they run 2/3 the size of the parent wolf!

My dog growing up was 50/50 mix of German Shepard and Red Wolf. Basically he was "Death on 4 Feet!" There were no coyotes in the neighborhood! Now, my brother lives on the same farm, and can tell there are 3 packs within hearing of his home! (his four Pit-bulls seem to keep them away from his livestock, but ALL his surviving barn cats sleep in the barn rafters!)

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We have a saying here in Michigan, the only good yote is a dead one. I've seen first hand the damage they can inflict on other wildlife. We have them in every single county in the state. If I see one while deer hunting (which I do frequently) I'll shoot it. Legal btw year round in Michigan.

It's legal here year round, too. Hunters do need a hunting license, but there is no requirement to report coyote kills. And coyotes are one of only two animals that it's legal to hunt with lights at night here in every county except for Beaufort, Dare, Hyde, Tyrrell and Washington counties. Feral pigs can also be hunted at night in North Carolina.

More than one source says that hunting/killing coyotes isn't having much of an effect on reducing their population. One group may be killed off in one place, and another group will move into that same location. No one knows how many coyotes there are in North Carolina. They thrive in urban areas just as well as they do in wild areas.

They're very secretive. I'm outside almost every day in winter and spring, hiking through woods and mountains and pasture land...and I've only seen two coyotes in the past two or three years. And both times have been those now-you-see-it-now-you-don't encounters. Then again, I'm making no attempt at stealth...I'm just out hiking.
 
We had a pair that had their den in the woods across the street from us, sometimes they would have a pup that color.

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I saw one walking down Lover's Lane in Dallas, right next to the luxury homes in Highland Park. This is among the richest neighborhoods in America.

Time was about 3 AM. I was parked in a shopping centre and he walked by the wall beside the sidewalk and I had him cold in my headlights for several seconds. No mistake.

I think he was headed to a Jack in the Box down the street. The women there may have been feeding him.
 
Oh the horror.

A predator which seems to be almost as adaptable to its environment, and new habitats, as man, and just as ruthless about killing anything edible.

And to add insult to injury, it's got the nerve to eat the supposed apex predator's pets!

Unlike other nuisance wildlife like Burmese pythons, feral pigs, and even the wolves re-imported from Canada, the coyotes were here long before us, expanded their range with us, and got where they are now entirely on their own.

I can't help liking the critter. Doesn't mean I didn't try to kill them whenever I got a chance, and I've taken several, usually incidentally, not planned, during my decades of hunting. But there is little point in hating an animal for just being good at doing what it's got to do.
 
I saw one walking down Lover's Lane in Dallas, right next to the luxury homes in Highland Park. This is among the richest neighborhoods in America.

Time was about 3 AM. I was parked in a shopping centre and he walked by the wall beside the sidewalk and I had him cold in my headlights for several seconds. No mistake.

I think he was headed to a Jack in the Box down the street. The women there may have been feeding him.

Jack in the Box hell! Them rich folks got good garbage! Coyotes aren't taking over by being stupid. Feral hogs use power and numbers, coyotes finesse and brains.
 
Hogs and coyotes both need to go. And yes I know everything is there to balance nature out but how do we deal with the problem today. To many around.
 
I don't "hate" coyotes, they are predators of opportunity. You can't fault them for that, its what they do.

That being said, I know ranchers who have had coyotes come into the pasture and latch onto a calf/lamb that is being born, feet haven't even hit the ground yet. For that reason I will take a poke at one if asked to.

My loyalty is to the friend that is trying to support his family with the livestock he raises.
 
I'll argue against shooting crows. I love those birds, and ravens too. I've been working on getting some to accept me for the last year or so. Nothing to report so far, they are a stoic creature. But I'm still trying.
 
And Burmese pythons in Florida.

Many Indian tribes have myths emphasizing how smart coyotes are. Maybe that's like Hispanics having Zorro and my people having Robin Hood...

But Robin was the Earl of Locksley. Never known a coyote to have a noble title. :D Or be thought to have any noble qualities.
 
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I'll argue against shooting crows. I love those birds, and ravens too. I've been working on getting some to accept me for the last year or so. Nothing to report so far, they are a stoic creature. But I'm still trying.


Squawk! "Nevermore..." (I presume that you've read Poe on the raven.)

I was tempted to shoot at ravens when I was in Newfoundland, where they were plentiful and noisy. But a shot from my Husqvarna .270 or my .303 would demolish the bird and wind up...where? I decided it wasn't safe to fire at them.

I find baboons and hyenas to be despicable. Would thin them out a bit where I could.
 
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I saw a young Fisher Cat yesterday, first one I ever saw during the day.

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I saw one walking down Lover's Lane in Dallas, right next to the luxury homes in Highland Park. This is among the richest neighborhoods in America.



Time was about 3 AM. I was parked in a shopping centre and he walked by the wall beside the sidewalk and I had him cold in my headlights for several seconds. No mistake.



I think he was headed to a Jack in the Box down the street. The women there may have been feeding him.
Going to Jack in the box, he must have been looking for a Weasel. [emoji1]

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Coyotes have just about cleaned out the turkey, bob-white quail, cotton-tail rabbit, red & grey fox,
ground hog, opossum populations and are working purty heavily on the white-tail deer in my neck of the woods...

They range from the farm and ranch land to the city streets, if left unchecked,
one of these days all we'll have around here will be coyotes and buzzards.

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But Robin was the Earl of Locksley. Never known a coyote to have a noble title.

You're kidding, right?! :D

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