21 to buy guns? What else?

[crstrode]

I support the NRA. Have a lifetime membership. I don't agree with everything they do, but they are our biggest and best protection of the 2nd amendment.

I would much rather see a age restriction on weapons purchase rather than an all out ban on certain weapons.

With the "current" gun culture, it may become necessary to accept something less than perfect in order to protect all our 2A rights.

Considering that zero of the recent mass murder by gun events have been committed by NRA members, it seems obvious that only NRA members should be allowed to have guns . . . just sayin'

 

[the ringo kid]

If they do pass age 21 to buy long guns or handguns plus beer how about being 21 to vote as you are obviously not mature enough to select a president. Unless your in the military of course.

Don't have a conniption fit yet, a well-known media personality just said this morning that the Prez is starting to slacken off on that a bit. So let's wait and see.

 

[the ringo kid]

The real problem never seems to be addressed by the knee jerk reactionaries....people.

It's much easier to write laws regulating inert objects than things that have a mind,free will and are mentally unbalanced.

If been reading about the so called "Red Flag" law that seems to be dealing with the real issue,people,but fails to safeguard the rights of those accused with a quick hearing after a seizure.

A real issue IMO is the press coverage that almost challenges the next mentally disturbed person to a "can you top this".

The freedom that the press has guaranteed in the 1st amendment is what needs to be restricted more than my 2nd Amendment rights.

One of the biggest real issues is-the inaction of their useless lib sheriff (to do the right thing) and the inaction of the deputies in protecting those kids by going in and confronting that punk.

 

[the ringo kid]

In another thread Joe Scarborough (sp?) on MSNBC is all but starting a "Top 10 shootings" by body count list................calling out to nut jobs "Can you top this?"

Note: Morning Joe's ratings have fallen from #28 to #47 in cable news shows in the past year.

So, joe lost 1 of its 3 viewers already? good.

 

[mtgianni]

The best quote I have seen in this whole mess is "Last week Congress was asking soap manufactures to change the shape of dishwasher pads so teenagers would stop chewing them. This week they are asking teens to set gun policy".

 

[jimbo728]

Law change or not, bad guy sickos with no respect for life will still get what they will to commit crimes. Until respect for life is restored in that small portion of society that is evil,we will see no real solution. In the meantime we should protect each other and ourselves.
Jim

 

[Jeff423]

As I approach 70 I'm beginning to feel that 30 might be a better legal age for a lot of things.

 

[bummer]

Why is it that only with firearms do they go after the mechanism rather than the individual?

Do you think we should ban matches to prevent arson?

Should we ban cars and booze to stop drunk driving deaths? (that's 10 to 15,000 per year) that's 27 per day or the equivalent of a Sandy Hook every day of the year.

Should we ban airplanes to prevent another 911?

Or pressure cookers to prevent another marathon bombing?

Why is it that the firearm is to blame rather than the shooters mental state that causes someone to act out by shooting a bunch of folks that are probably unknown to the shooter?

The FL shooter was known to the FBI 7 months ago and had written that he wanted to be a school shooter. A high school computer whiz kid can hack the pentagon but our law enforcement community can't find one nut job kid who posted his intentions online 7 months ago!!! REALLY?

As a result you wish to punish me by restricting MY rights or those of my family. I don't think so.....

When I looked up the auto related deaths for 2016 it was over 40,000,That is over 109 per day. I am not seeing anyone pushing for the return to walking, because you could get killed riding a horse or a buggy.

 

[ameridaddy]

If you are old enough to go in the service you are old enough to drink and buy a gun.

Voting, owning a gun at eighteen...well...
I have my doubts that most of this age are of sufficient maturity to deal with the responsibility that should attend voting or ownership of firearms. As to those in the military (old enough to die for our country), we have to remember they're doing their job under a rigorous instruction program and stern supervision, near 24/7, with severe penalties for non-compliance and non-performance.
Can't say that about most of the other eighteen to twenty-one year olds.

 

[HardlyAble2]

I think 18 is too young for anything but driving, working and the military. Why wouldn't you lump firearms, voting and drinking in the same grouping at 21?? Do they not all require the same level of 'adultness' or not? Just thinking out loud....

 

[Walkingwolf]

I'm 63, and I find this obscene. Young adults risk their life for this country, they raise families, work jobs, pay taxes.

 

[CBus660R]

As I approach 70 I'm beginning to feel that 30 might be a better legal age for a lot of things.

I'm 43 and look at some of the decisions my 25 and 18 year old step-sons make and just scratch my head. IMHO, a lot of this has to do with the internet and social media. I was already 18 and in college before I had my first experience with email and bulletin boards. AOL came into the picture a year or 2 later. I didn't get a smart phone until I had to for my job at the age of 33. I'm a firm believer that this constant exposure, always being connected, etc... has really affected their thought processes. Heck, I can see how it has affected me and I was an adult before it got it's claws in me. The thought that my18 year old stepson could walk into a LGS and buy an AR without me even knowing is scary, fortunately he has a hard enough time keeping $20 for gas money, let alone saving up the $600 or so it would take to buy a basic no frills AR and a few accessories and ammo to go with it.

I think we as a society need to have an honest discussion about age for certain events. Remember, a young adult under the age can still be allowed access to guns and alcohol through a parent/guardian. My dad bought me my first handgun at 17, but kept it in HIS safe that only HE had the key too. 3 more were added to my collection with my own money before 21 under the same rules. I could enjoy a cold beer with him when I was home from college at the age of 19 or 20. That doesn't mean I was ready to have free access to those things without his supervision.

Having said all that, I won't support any new restrictions unless they come with a serious improvement to the NCIS system (both reporting to the database and some new knockouts) and we loosen some of the HIPPA rules with regards to mental health.

 

[sipowicz]

Not sure the military at 18 is a valid analogy. Buying a gun at home at 18 and being trained in the army with it are two very separate things. With the military, you know he is being supervised and trained....brininging it home at 18 possibly with no training rom (father/role model) could be problematic.

 

[Rule3]

Ya but at age 18 you are OLD enough to VOTE for the PEOPLE that make these Laws. Lay down you life in WAR, If you commit a crime you are tried as an adult. You can enter into a legally binding contract Buy a car or truck or house.

Did I mention old enough to VOTE and influence elections and Laws??

But

Can't Drink or buy a gun??

So you are only a part time adult for that which pleases certain groups!

 

[eveled]

In a perfect world. Everybody would have to pass a citizenship test, and there would be a test to prove your an adult. There also should be an age requirement for haveing a baby.

But in the real world you are born into some rights that some don't deserve.

I know when I was 14, I was capable of carrying a gun for protection, and would have made my school safer. But how can you tell what is in a kids mind? Or anybody's mind?

One thing I know for absolute certain. My love of firearms, kept me off drugs and out of trouble. No way I was going to get a record and be barred from owning guns when I was old enough. Guns aren't evil, guns aren't the problem.

 

[Walkingwolf]

Not sure the military at 18 is a valid analogy. Buying a gun at home at 18 and being trained in the army with it are two very separate things. With the military, you know he is being supervised and trained....brininging it home at 18 possibly with no training rom (father/role model) could be problematic.

Same can be said for 40 year old.

 

[susieqz]

heinlein's idea that only people who did military service should be allowed to vote got me thinking.

 

[the ringo kid]

Not sure the military at 18 is a valid analogy. Buying a gun at home at 18 and being trained in the army with it are two very separate things. With the military, you know he is being supervised and trained....brininging it home at 18 possibly with no training rom (father/role model) could be problematic.

Ive mixed feelings on it. One thing that I find an outrageous proposal-is lower the voting age to 16 from what ive heard someone was thinking?

 

[WCCPHD]

Ive mixed feelings on it. One thing that I find an outrageous proposal-is lower the voting age to 16 from what ive heard someone was thinking?

I will never understand people who blindly pursue an agenda, never wavering, no matter how little sense it makes.

So, based on the anti's we have to stop 18, 19 and 20 year olds from having guns because they can't be trusted. While at the same time saying we have to listen to the children and make policy based upon what children say.

 

[the ringo kid]

I will never understand people who blindly pursue an agenda, never wavering, no matter how little sense it makes.

So, based on the anti's we have to stop 18, 19 and 20 year olds from having guns because they can't be trusted. While at the same time saying we have to listen to the children and make policy based upon what children say.

I fully agree. Also as a side and kinda unrelated note a george soros funded group just bought the D.As position in San Antionio. Gave $1 million dollars to it when it only had some $57,000 in its coffers. You can bet that soros is rubbing its greedy hands on this too.