22/32 6" Target 22LR
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Negative. S&W started heat treating .22 I frame cylinders during the early 1920s. There is only concern about firing high velocity .22 LR in early I frame cylinders that did not get heat treated.
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The safety of early HFT revolvers has nothing to do with heat treatment of the cylinder, but with the fact that until around 1930 or so, the chambers were not recessed. There is plenty of metal in the cylinder and barrel of the HFT to withstand the pressure of the high speed ammo that came out in the mid 1920's , but the older cases might rupture in the rim area in a non recessed chamber. I have fired a lot of high speed rounds in my HFT and single shots with non recessed chambers and never had a problem. In the event that a rim did rupture, it is very unlikely that the gun would be damaged, but the escaping gas could injure someone standing to the side.
I agree, the cylinder strength is not an issue. Even though S&W no longer heat treated non magnum cylinders after the change order Oct. 12, 1945.
The pre 1935 .22/32 Heavy Frame Target revolvers w/o recessed chambers and especially with pre war brass could be an issue.
Today .22 mag in non-recessed chambers is still a very real issue. Since 1959 when .22 Mags were introduced, that's why Ruger .22 mag cylinders do not even have a firing pin groove cut in the rear face of their .22 cylinders to this day.
The pre 1935 .22/32 Heavy Frame Target revolvers w/o recessed chambers and especially with pre war brass could be an issue.
Today .22 mag in non-recessed chambers is still a very real issue. Since 1959 when .22 Mags were introduced, that's why Ruger .22 mag cylinders do not even have a firing pin groove cut in the rear face of their .22 cylinders to this day.
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Cool, are they in chronological order? I see two J frames up front, then a "New I frame", and are the rest I frames?
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The order was defined by which one I grabbed next to place on the custom 'prop rod'.
Most of these are 35's or 35-1's. The lions share of my collection didn't make it for the photo op.
Some day.
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bdGreen
just a crazy montage, enjoy.
A M10 + $50, is a real sweet deal!
So how many pre 35s, M35s and M35-1s do you have? And how long have you been accumulating them?
b.d.Green;
It would be redundant to write you have a fantastic collection of S&W .22 revolvers. Is it known where the 5" or the 6" 63s are or what became of them?
meh92;
If you like modern looking S&W revolvers consider a 5" J frame .357 mag for the kids. Of course I wouldn't actually put .357s in it for them. Loaded with .38 wadcutter target cartridges it would be a step up from .22s but only a small step. 5" Model 60-18s are not in demand so they do not command a big price.
It would be redundant to write you have a fantastic collection of S&W .22 revolvers. Is it known where the 5" or the 6" 63s are or what became of them?
meh92;
If you like modern looking S&W revolvers consider a 5" J frame .357 mag for the kids. Of course I wouldn't actually put .357s in it for them. Loaded with .38 wadcutter target cartridges it would be a step up from .22s but only a small step. 5" Model 60-18s are not in demand so they do not command a big price.
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"So how many pre 35s, M35s and M35-1s do you have? And how long have you been accumulating them?"
Good questions. I will answer the 2nd one first. I bought my first Model 35 in the 70's. Gentleman had one at the Dallas show, NIB, with an unused set of J frame targets. I got into that one for about $200.00.
I have kept my eyes open and some change in my pocket to pick up high condition, in the box Model 35's ever since.
The crown jewel of my collection of .22/32 Targets was a special order for Camphor back in 1959. It has gold bead front sight, rosewood target stocks with gilded medallions, target hammer, white outline rear sight, and, gold lettering. I have the invoice that identifies all the 'special' features.
As to your first question, well.... that many.
"It would be redundant to write you have a fantastic collection of S&W .22 revolvers. Is it known where the 5" or the 6" 63s are or what became of them?", K22fan
Thank you for that sir.
Regarding the Model 63's. I am only acutely aware of those your are referring to. I would love to glom onto a six inch barreled .22/32 target .22 in stainless. That would be right up there with finding a stainless Model 45. Except, they did make the .22/32 in six inch barreled guns. Sadly, not the Model 45.
Like the Model 617's that were shipped overseas I have not been able to lay a hand on one.
bdGreen
Good questions. I will answer the 2nd one first. I bought my first Model 35 in the 70's. Gentleman had one at the Dallas show, NIB, with an unused set of J frame targets. I got into that one for about $200.00.
I have kept my eyes open and some change in my pocket to pick up high condition, in the box Model 35's ever since.
The crown jewel of my collection of .22/32 Targets was a special order for Camphor back in 1959. It has gold bead front sight, rosewood target stocks with gilded medallions, target hammer, white outline rear sight, and, gold lettering. I have the invoice that identifies all the 'special' features.
As to your first question, well.... that many.
"It would be redundant to write you have a fantastic collection of S&W .22 revolvers. Is it known where the 5" or the 6" 63s are or what became of them?", K22fan
Thank you for that sir.
Regarding the Model 63's. I am only acutely aware of those your are referring to. I would love to glom onto a six inch barreled .22/32 target .22 in stainless. That would be right up there with finding a stainless Model 45. Except, they did make the .22/32 in six inch barreled guns. Sadly, not the Model 45.
Like the Model 617's that were shipped overseas I have not been able to lay a hand on one.
bdGreen
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"So how many pre 35s, M35s and M35-1s do you have? And how long have you been accumulating them?"
Good questions. I will answer the 2nd one first. I bought my first Model 35 in the 70's. Gentleman had one at the Dallas show, NIB, with an unused set of J frame targets. I got into that one for about $200.00.
I have kept my eyes open and some change in my pocket to pick up high condition, in the box Model 35's ever since.
The crown jewel of my collection of .22/32 Targets was a special order for Camphor back in 1959. It has gold bead front sight, rosewood target stocks with gilded medallions, target hammer, white outline rear sight, and, gold lettering. I have the invoice that identifies all the 'special' features.
As to your first question, well.... that many.
bdGreen [/FONT][/SIZE]
Bravo, that means you have at least 3 dozen!
