23" Wood S&W Billy Club with friends... Slapjack & Handcuffs

[quinn]

I saw this on eBay under 'buy it now, or BO'. Spent some time researching but could find no reference to S&W ever making Billies. I thought it was possibly a fake but sent an offer. I have since heard from another forum member who has 2 that these are real.

23" long, oak with a stain that looks like the 70's era target grips Any info on S&W wooden billy clubs would be appreciated.

Shown with my Model 96M S&W slapjack (middle of the 3 sizeds the company made) from the 1970s, and

early marked Model 100p handcuffs from about 1979 or 80, According to the SWCA & forum cuff guru, the company introduced the model 100 in 1979. The bracelets bear a serial number beginning with 00 and 4 digits "Club" cuffs, Don??

 

[stykshooter]

My first issued night stick in the early '80's was wooden. I don't recall the maker but I am pretty sure ours were hickory, not oak. They took them up soon after I went on the force and issued a plastic/nylon night stick then the PR-24's.

 

[opoefc]

You will see these saps & nightsticks in the 80s era S&W Police Equipment catalogs. Ed.

 

[Old_Cop]

I remember the clubs with a stock S&W button in the top of the handle, but without the emblem on the barrel. I had S&W cuffs but not a slapjack, those were for old guys. Fact is that by the mid 70s they were frowned upon in my department. We did have Maglites as an emergency impact weapon.

 

[Buford57]

Misty water-colored memories of the way we were.

Kelitis a painful condition of the joints and long bones brought on by fighting with the police.

 

[mrchuck]

My slap adjusted the behavior of a newly arrested when applied professionally.
The baton was carried on formal crowd control only.
Never did learn the great twirls and showmanship as the NYPD taught!

 

[KEN L]

The actual name is flat sap. The only thing I ever used mine for was, once in a while I drove an unmarked car and occasionally the left head light would go out and I would reach out the window and smack the top of the fender and the light would come back on. True story!

 

[jimmyj]

The best pocket impact weapon I found was a "Convoy" blackjack. A lead head mounted on a spring handle and covered with leather. A real attention getter. Once an unruly citizen met the convoy, the citizen did not want a second meeting.

 

[SAFireman]

Looks like you are all set for a night out on the town

 

[CH4]

Nice find! I carried all 3. The sap is great for taking out collar bones...so I am told. All my uniform pants had sap pockets.

 

[sierra255]

Carried all three, used all three, and still have them. One thing I added to this trio is a pair of Damascus Sap Gloves, and those got some use back in the day.

 

[ParadiseRoad]

The best pocket impact weapon I found was a "Convoy" blackjack. A lead head mounted on a spring handle and covered with leather. A real attention getter. Once an unruly citizen met the convoy, the citizen did not want a second meeting.

...BUCHEIMER CONVOY BLACKJACK...

 

[S&WsRsweet]

Dad was a cop and sometimes people he knew would have a run in with the law and ask his advice of what to do. This one guy came by the house it seems he was driving while drinking and got stopped then tried to fight with tne officer.He had two big bruises one on each side of his head .He wanted to know about sueing the officer .Dad said well what happened he admitted he was trying to fight he said this young punk took this little leather thing right quick and knocked me slap down with it and handcuffed me and threw me in tne back seat .Dad said well that explains on side of ya head busted what happened to the other side .He said well that's what I'm going to sue him about . He said I finally got straightened up a little and I told him he was lucky he caught me off guard but if I wasn't hand cuffed I bet he couldn't do that again .The young officer pulled over drug him out if the car unhad cuffed and said ok are ya ready the fella said he replied yea I'm ready he said that crazy SO and So snatched that thig out and back slapped me on this side knocking me down again then handcuffed me and took me to jail. Dad said instead of sueing him what you should do is see if he might hire you .The fella said hire me for what .Dad said to use as hid training dummy . The guy left never came back .True story.

 

[loc n load]

When I started in 73, wooden batons were an essential part of our daily wear. The sap and the blackjack were “add ones”. My TO told me the first day I worked with him to go buy a sap and a back up gun. I followed those instructions. Later I would be a motor cop, and carried a flat sap in my uniform trousers in a slash pocket made specifically for that implement.
I instruct nowadays at our state academy, tasers, asp’s and OC have replaced the hardwood batons, saps, blackjacks and mag lites. I know some “old dogs” that still carry saps, but they are few and far between nowadays. Tools of the trade in bygone days.

 

[Drm50]

Back in 70s when S&W was heavy into police equippment the distributors started a extortion racket. To insure you access to S&W revolvers you had to purchase S&W accessorie package. I bought a lot of this stuff cheap from shops that went under in 80s and the local shows were full of it for
10yrs. Winchester tried a similar racket prior to WW2. It didn't work for
them either.

 

[michpatriot]

sap/jack

Here's a moldy oldie...it's a lead shot filled pocket sap from the 1940s. I got a feeling that it would have some interesting tales if it could talk freely

 

[flagman1776]

An officer I worked with... his father was an old school state trooper... I saw a troublemaker take a swing at him in a crowded venue. (From our vantage point, we couldn't get there to back him up.) Said troublemaker went down like a sack of potatoes. Everybody... even said troublemaker... swore he'd been hit with an open hand.
Officer T had a flat slapper concealed up his sleeve I suspect, used it, & dropped it in the special trousers pocket so fast no one saw it. What an art!

 

[dltvette]

quinn (Randy),
I've enjoyed your thread on billy clubs, slapjacks & handcuffs.
I would like to make a few clarifications on the S&W Model 100 handcuffs.
The first "model 100" handcuffs (also the first S&W handcuffs with the "slot" double lock system), were manufactured pre-1979 & manufactured in the Springfield, MA. plant. These were the patent pending versions with the "cheeks" marked PAT'S PENDING and did not have the model number stamped on them. There were two versions of the PAT'S PENDING cuffs.

The 1st version had the "double lock slot" only on the front keyway side (photo 1).

The 2nd version had the "double lock slot" on front & back sides (photo 2).

When the handcuffs were marked with the model number, M-100, the manufacturing had moved to the Houlton, ME facility, and in 1979 started the M-100 marked versions with the "slot double lock" on both sides (photo 3).

The "push-pin" double lock, M-100P handcuff like you posted, did not appear until 2005. I have a S&W Academy Handcuff Price List Effective May 1, 2005, showing the M-100P and stating the Individual Officer Price of $18.05 and a Suggested Retail Price of $28.95. M-100P in (photo 4).
Also in this price list, for the first time listed, was a 103P & 104P.

The Model 1, chain link, and Model 1H, hinged handcuffs, these were larger adjustable cuffs (50% more than the M-100) were both introduced "New in 1999" and these were manufactured with the "push-pin" double lock system. This was the first time S&W went back to the "push-pin" double lock system since they used this system in the early handcuffs manufactured started in 1952 through 1978.

Sorry about giving a long explanation.
Dave

 

[shell627]

A open handed slap with a palm sap has been known to drop someone to their knees.And a open handed slap like that would also give the officer a lot of street cred.Wearing gloves with sap on your non gun hand kept it concealed and still allowed use of firearm in emergency.

 

[VaTom]

Back in the 1970's we carried nickel Model 10's (4"), 12 round drop pouch, mace, peerless handcuffs and a nightstick. Also Motorola radios. No slapjacks, saps allowed. Carried the nightstick between the seat and door jamb. Regulations required we have it with us when out of the car or walking a beat. Ours had a rubber grommet that kept it in the ring on our duty belt. Carried a couple of flexi-cuffs inside our hats. Most officers carried a Kel Light or Mag Light if they could afford one. No rechargeables back then. Spent a lot of money on dura cells batteries. I still have my "C" cell Kel Light. Liked it as it would fit in back pocket - I believe it is a 3 cell model.

Pepper spray, collapsible batons (asp), tasers, came later.