3" HB M-60 Jovino run

[Dogmann]

NYPD Guns Page - Smith & Wesson Model 60 NY-1

Found this about the NYPD model 60's. NYPD ordered theirs with RB round butt.... why have the SB then? Harder to conceal...

 

[linde]

. . . NYPD ordered theirs with RB round butt.... why have the SB then? Harder to conceal...

. . . but aims instinctively and controls recoil better.

Russ

 

[flagman1776]

At one time, I'm told, the NYPD issues 3" M36s to female officers. Square butt is no detriment if carried open. They were fine guns but the male officers wouldn't be caught dead with a ladies gun.
I wonder if the M60s were intended to replace the blued 36s.

My M36-1 concealed just fine in an IWB despite target grips.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

The model 60 ny1 was a replacement for the model 36's as authorized off duty weapons for officers hired after jan88 or so.
They went along with the model 64 ny1's that were also double action only. They both replaced the traditional da model 10's and 36's. The 60's were a surprise move as a shiny revolvers was first believed to be tactically unsound and secondly you were taught that cops have blued/black guns.

I never saw a 3" model 36 in use by an Nypd female mos but they were issued 3" model 10's with hb rb used by quite a few

 

[Dogmann]

Great thread on the SB Jovino 60's. Weren't all of these Jovino 60's in a certain three letter serial number range? All started with AEB? Or AE? Something? Anyone know?

 

[ACE10000D]

Reach out to me anytime you get one. Since we must be neighbors, I will buy all of them.

 

[Dogmann]

So is serial
Prefix AEB a jovino?

 

[jcelect]

Jovino gun

The Jovino guns of 1972, with 171 guns made, were all in serial number range R56962-R57239

jcelect

 

[PeteC]

Great thread on the SB Jovino 60's. Weren't all of these Jovino 60's in a certain three letter serial number range? All started with AEB? Or AE? Something? Anyone know?

Mine is prefix AEV, and there are a couple other close prefixes, they were made in 2~3 batches of several hundred pieces, all in 1984. There are pics of factory letters here with specifics. The guns sent to John Jovino in NYC were NOT pinned, and they all had a 3-letter prefix s/n.

The 171 guns made earlier all had pinned barrels, and are a completely different series, but I would be curious to learn where they went.

 

[Detective20]

3" HB M-60 Jovinco run

The serial numbers started with AEU, AEV or AEW and then numbers. I have one of each.

 

[Obe]

Great thread on the SB Jovino 60's. Weren't all of these Jovino 60's in a certain three letter serial number range? All started with AEB? Or AE? Something? Anyone know?

AEC 50xx is a known 2" example.

 

[Chop]

I have a 2" square butt. AEC prefix.

 

[Detective20]

I was referring to the 3 inch barrels as having prefix AEU, AEV, AEW. I do not own a 2 inch I have all three three inch barreled Jovinco 60's.

 

[Capt29]

The HH Harris Co. was the "John Jovino" of the Chicago area. Herbie Harris operated a police equipment and gun store just south of the old CPD HQ on State Street. He always had a quantity of John Jovino guns and had his own 'specials" from S&W. I believe he passed away in the early80s and the enlightened city of Chicago would not allow his license to be taken over by anyone so about the last gun shop in Chicago disappeared.

 

[PeteC]

The HH Harris Co. was the "John Jovino" of the Chicago area. Herbie Harris operated a police equipment and gun store just south of the old CPD HQ on State Street. He always had a quantity of John Jovino guns and had his own 'specials" from S&W. I believe he passed away in the early80s and the enlightened city of Chicago would not allow his license to be taken over by anyone so about the last gun shop in Chicago disappeared.

Would he have bought them from John Jovino, or directly from S&W? The letters I have seen online only mention the three shipments to John Jovino store in NYC.

 

[Retired W4]

The Jovino guns of 1972, with 171 guns made, were all in serial number range R56962-R57239

jcelect

That particular run of 171 of 1972 went to 7 other dealers beside Jovino. Jovino received 20 units while the others received between 20 and 23. Mine was shipped to Gil Hibard who received 21. All were shipped the same day, June 12, 1978. That's IAW my S&W letter for R57179.

 

[jaguargolf]

At one time, I'm told, the NYPD issues 3" M36s to female officers. Square butt is no detriment if carried open. They were fine guns but the male officers wouldn't be caught dead with a ladies gun.
I wonder if the M60s were intended to replace the blued 36s.

My M36-1 concealed just fine in an IWB despite target grips.

My aunt had one, retired as NYPD Lieutenant. She was a class act. Gracious. Very smart , very sharp, very pretty, right up to the end.

 

[Retired W4]

The 171 guns made earlier all had pinned barrels, and are a completely different series, but I would be curious to learn where they went.

Ask and you shall receive, Pete.

 

[PeteC]

Thank you!

For anyone wondering about the "other 3" barrels"...

The John Jovino Model 60 that I have is identical to my Ladysmith 60-3, except for the grip frame. The barrels, sights, hammer and trigger, the font on the roll marks are all identical. Square v. round frame is the only difference I can see... Well, that and the finish, which a previous owner thoughtfully polished on the LS, making the two even harder to tell apart once the target grips are on!