Mountain Man
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Is the cylinder in these j frames stainless or carbon steel? Don't think anybody discussed it.
.32 H&R coming back to the J frame - Ultimate Carry by Lipsey
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Frieda's Boss
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My understanding is that it's the same as the 442/642. The black finished one has a carbon steel cylinder, and the grey one is stainless. Read or heard that somewhere, anyway, and it makes sense if true.
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One thing that has always bugged me (this goes for shotguns too) "experts" (whoever they are????) say dont look at the sights when shooting a clay target or in close combat encounter , yet the next sentence is I hate this fiber sight and need to change it out......wait a darn minute why would you change it out if you dont look at it?? I love the 32 and think it makes a better "kit gun" calibre wise when a 22 I will be buying a number of these cause they wont last forever and in 2030 I wont pay the $1500 someone will want for one!
Ya, the 32 S&W family in a J frame 32 H&R allows you to chose from a re loadable round with about the same power of a 22 to ones that rival a 38 special.
AS far as sights go, the dovetailed front and rear these are going to come with are about as easy to deal with as it gets.
If you don't need them a small hammer and a brass punch fixes that. Any machinist could make you lengths of dove tail stock for filling the cuts or flush, or making whatever height or width you want for front or rear.
AS far as sights go, the dovetailed front and rear these are going to come with are about as easy to deal with as it gets.
If you don't need them a small hammer and a brass punch fixes that. Any machinist could make you lengths of dove tail stock for filling the cuts or flush, or making whatever height or width you want for front or rear.
What's the odds that S&W adds the 32 H&R too there catalog. If these gun sell well as it sounds like they will. They should come up with some version to satisfy the demand. lots of us are getting older with hand issues and Tinnitus. A lot of baby boomers are coming into the fold.
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Yep, gotta roll your own.
Late February early March.
Mountain Man
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I talked to my dealer to put me on the list. Hopefully enough units to meet demand. But.....what will it do to prices of the original runs, maybe a little more reasonable?
Did a little research, visited several LGS in my area. Found out that I am one of many who have inquired about the new Lipsey's edition .32 cal J Frame. As for the pricing ... full MSRP! Also, I was told first come first serve. No waiting list, No deposit, No pre-orders. As result, I have altered my plans.
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What's the odds that S&W adds the 32 H&R too there catalog. If these gun sell well as it sounds like they will. They should come up with some version to satisfy the demand. lots of us are getting older with hand issues and Tinnitus. A lot of baby boomers are coming into the fold.
Solid point made.
It feels to me that S&W has been ignoring current revolver trends and a single feature elimination. Sadly, they put their faith in a semi-auto caliber which turned out to be not so popular. I digress. I think S&W should add the .32 H&R in J-Frame once again. However, I don't think it will be happening anytime soon as result of potential big business conflict with Lipsey's... (undercutting the sales of .32 H&R J Frame edition). Of course, it's just my own speculation and opinion. In the meantime, I will continue to look for the needle in the haystack.
What's the odds that S&W adds the 32 H&R too there catalog. If these gun sell well as it sounds like they will. They should come up with some version to satisfy the demand. lots of us are getting older with hand issues and Tinnitus. A lot of baby boomers are coming into the fold.
Solid point made.
It feels to me that S&W has been ignoring current revolver trends and a single feature elimination. Sadly, they put their faith in a semi-auto caliber which turned out to be not so popular. I digress. I think S&W should add the .32 H&R in J-Frame once again. However, I don't think it will be happening anytime soon as result of potential big business conflict with Lipsey's... (undercutting the sales of .32 H&R J Frame edition). Of course, it's just my own speculation and opinion. In the meantime, I will continue to look for the needle in the haystack.
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I never buy brand new guns and have instead always opted to buy used ones for various reasons. In fact, in 40+ years since buying my first .22 rifle as a kid there has only been one time that I have bought a brand new gun off the shelf (not counting AR lowers used for build purposes). SHOT shows never really grab my attention, either.
For the first time that I can recall, however, the release of the Ultimate Carry truly grabbed my attention. The .32 H&R option first caused me to double-take as I have really gotten to appreciate the .327 and the H&R, but then certain other features (like their choice of night sights with a rear adjustable U-notch, improved trigger, chamfered chambers, etc.) really made me take notice. The lack of an internal lock was the clincher, though, and for the first time in my life I decided a newly-released model was a must-have.
Stopping by my local shop, he quoted me a price of "right at $700" for a 432UC and put my name in the #1 slot for when they become available. Hopefully the supply matches demand and we all get a chance to own the one(s) we want. Along with everyone else, I'm *hoping* this manufacturing decision does indeed bleed over into their K-frame production and maybe even N-frame, eventually.
For the first time that I can recall, however, the release of the Ultimate Carry truly grabbed my attention. The .32 H&R option first caused me to double-take as I have really gotten to appreciate the .327 and the H&R, but then certain other features (like their choice of night sights with a rear adjustable U-notch, improved trigger, chamfered chambers, etc.) really made me take notice. The lack of an internal lock was the clincher, though, and for the first time in my life I decided a newly-released model was a must-have.
Stopping by my local shop, he quoted me a price of "right at $700" for a 432UC and put my name in the #1 slot for when they become available. Hopefully the supply matches demand and we all get a chance to own the one(s) we want. Along with everyone else, I'm *hoping* this manufacturing decision does indeed bleed over into their K-frame production and maybe even N-frame, eventually.
I have a swag of SMLE pull-off barrels, somewhere. Most aren't too bad inside, it's just the muzzles are worn from cleaning cords or the throats are washed out from cordite. If you want some let me know.
Back on topic: Next time I go to the not so local GS which is a Lipsey's dealer, I'll see if they'll order a 432UC. Or 632. An upgrade from my "old" .32 Mag Centennial no-night sight having carry revolver.
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I know that SMLE barrels 303 barrels are .312 to .314, but they are also 10 to the inch twist which is a bit fast for hand gun bullets, especially if you want to shoot any lead at higher handgun velocities.
I found a decent 32-20 rifle barrel which provided me with enough for several barrels. I have been considering trying my hand at rifling barrels and am fairly confident that I can. Not only have I got plans for a machine to cut rifling I have also acquired a .312 button. I am not sure what would happen it you tried pressing one through a reamed K22 barrel. It would quite possibly swell the OD as it is recommend that when using a button that the wall thickness be 1- 1.5 times the bore dia or the tube is clamped inside of a support. I can find lots of 2"-4" J frame barrels. My holy grail is the 327 mag, butt have found it a bit much in alloy J frames. But, I can get lots of 1" 4140 round stock. I can drill and ream it to .300 which is the correct diameter for the button. Once rifled and lapped I can turn it to whatever profile I want.
To me it isn't always about the results as much as the journey. I can usually get from point A to B the fastest via interstate. I get to see a lot more if I take back roads.
I found a decent 32-20 rifle barrel which provided me with enough for several barrels. I have been considering trying my hand at rifling barrels and am fairly confident that I can. Not only have I got plans for a machine to cut rifling I have also acquired a .312 button. I am not sure what would happen it you tried pressing one through a reamed K22 barrel. It would quite possibly swell the OD as it is recommend that when using a button that the wall thickness be 1- 1.5 times the bore dia or the tube is clamped inside of a support. I can find lots of 2"-4" J frame barrels. My holy grail is the 327 mag, butt have found it a bit much in alloy J frames. But, I can get lots of 1" 4140 round stock. I can drill and ream it to .300 which is the correct diameter for the button. Once rifled and lapped I can turn it to whatever profile I want.
To me it isn't always about the results as much as the journey. I can usually get from point A to B the fastest via interstate. I get to see a lot more if I take back roads.
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Lipsey seems to do a really good job of configuring guns that appeal to the shooting public. Their catalog of Lipsey and Talo exclusives covers a wide range of handguns and long guns. As seen here these new J-frames have really caught the public's eye.
Naptown_Gaijin
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S&W and Lipsey's wanted the 32 H&R instead for a couple reasons. First, the cylinder can be shorter... not by much, but enough to matter. Secondly, the .327 pressures are too high for the metals used in the 632 Ultimate Carry, especially if reloaded to really hot .327 loads. At close ranges, the 32 H&R is almost as effective as a 327, and a lot easier to shoot.
Shooting a 327 in a snubbie is downright painful. Try it in a Ruger LCR and you will see what I mean.
I can attest to the truth of that last statement.
I have a Taurus 327 magnum, and recoil is pretty darned snappy. Not quite as snappy as a 357 magnum snub or a as snappy as a 44 magnum snub, but still pretty rough.
Umm,OK...
But who said it has to be an aluminum or Scandium framed revolver? What's wrong with a steel frame?
Taurus did it with their model 327, and it works quite well.
The all-steel Taurus revolver is a couple of ounces heavier than an aluminum or scandium framed revolver, but IMO, that is a fair trade-off to be able to use the higher-powered ammo.
JMO and YMMV.
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riverrat38
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Sure, but that would be a different gun. This project is based on the 442 and 642 Airweight frames.
In steel, the frame would be the M640-1. If Linsey's thinks that that would be a winner, perhaps they will order a batch. Depends on demand; I am doubtful. But, also prejudiced; I want an Airweight, in S&W Long. The 32 H&R Mag will do fine.
73,
Rick
In steel, the frame would be the M640-1. If Linsey's thinks that that would be a winner, perhaps they will order a batch. Depends on demand; I am doubtful. But, also prejudiced; I want an Airweight, in S&W Long. The 32 H&R Mag will do fine.
73,
Rick
