.357 Silvertip

[Kid44]

Just curious, I found about 25 rounds of .357 Silvertip ammo in my ammo stash, of course it is not in the original box. It's doesn't really matter as there are only 25 rounds or so, but does anyone remember the bullet weight of these loads?
If I remember correctly it was not quite 158 gr.

 

[BKDinTexas]

Just curious, I found about 25 rounds of .357 Silvertip ammo in my ammo stash, of course it is not in the original box. It's doesn't really matter as there are only 25 rounds or so, but does anyone remember the bullet weight of these loads?
If I remember correctly it was not quite 158 gr.

145 gr I believe.

 

[Goblin]

I also think 145.

 

[Davinman]

it is 145gr. im positive, i have quite a few of them

 

[walkin' trails]

Yep .145s,and I seem to recall they traveled in the upper 1300 fps ranges.

 

[Skeptic 9c]

There were two weights, 145 gr and 110 gr.
Geoff
Who suggests a scale

 

[kwselke]

Just curious, I found about 25 rounds of .357 Silvertip ammo in my ammo stash, of course it is not in the original box. It's doesn't really matter as there are only 25 rounds or so, but does anyone remember the bullet weight of these loads?
If I remember correctly it was not quite 158 gr.

My box has 145 grain bullets.

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

There were two weights, 145 gr and 110 gr.
Geoff
Who suggests a scale

The 357Mag STHP has always been 145grs. The 38Spl came in three weights; 95, 110 & 125.

 

[BKDinTexas]

Wow. Are we all comvinced now!

 

[KEN L]

Okay, lemme settle this once and for all. They were 145 gr, I used to carry them on duty. Never heard of or saw a 125 gr, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I still use them on the rare occasion I carry a magnum. In my opinion, the best personal defense round ever produced.

 

[TexasRaider]

Always like the Silvertips, great round IMHO, and worked well (even in Miami in 1986...), but for some reason if it's not a brand new 'tacticool' death ray bullet made of killeranium, it's now suddenly junk and will come back after being fired, boomerang and kill you itself.

New is not always better, and older does not mean obsolete.

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

Okay, lemme settle this once and for all. They were 145 gr, I used to carry them on duty. Never heard of or saw a 125 gr, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I still use them on the rare occasion I carry a magnum. In my opinion, the best personal defense round ever produced.

Sorry but the 357Mag STHP using a 125gr bullet does not exist.

 

[CCantu357]

Every single .357 Silvertip I have fired as been 145 grain. Always seemed to be the perfect compromise between the 1400fps+ 125 grains and the slower 158s. However I do remember seeing 110 grain Silvertips in .357, unless I am confusing the .38s with them.

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

They came in 110 grain JHP in 357 magnum. I have a yellow box in my hand. These were popular law enforcement loads in the 70's and early 80's. We would pool our resources to obtain a box or two. Shot one out of the American Derringer one day and it felt similar to a 44magnum in recoil.

The very first STHP's was the 9mm 115gr and the .45ACP 185gr and they came in the white boxes and used the aluminum jackets. You claim that you have a yellow box of 357Mag 110STHP's. Please please provide photos of the box with the end label showing the product code and a clear photo of the cartridge itself. If you can't post them please feel free to email the photos to me.

Thank you.

 

[amd6547]

I only wish Winchester would make the dang stuff.
An email to Winchester asking whether they would ever make 357 magnum Silvertip again got a noncommittal "maybe in 2016".
I haven't seen any in years.

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

Unfortunately it doesn't make much sense to continue the STHP line when they have so many other lines like the Ranger SXT/T-Series, PDX1, Platinum Tip, Dual Bond and now the new Kinetic HE line.

Oh and the SXZ line of FMJ/JHP with the black Lubalox coated bullets that's an exclusive product for Bass Pro stores.

 

[mj2008]

In the early 1980's I remember .38 sthp coming in I think it was ...95 grain. It's a long time ago so I might be off a bit on weight but they were very light. They sounded like a 357 when I fired them at a indoor range. Large flame coming out of the barrel. The range officer came down to my lane to see what I was shooting.

 

[TexasRaider]

Hey they still (apparently) make it in 10mm and .41 Mag, that's pretty encouraging!

 

[jimmyj]

The ones I was issued in 1990 were 145 grain

 

[Texas Star]

A detective here checked on some police shootings involving 145 grain ST's. He told me that the load is VERY effective on humans, almost too much so.

One of our FBI agents on this board said that one almost blew the arm off of a felon hit with the 145 grain ST bullet. It was issued in .357 by Dallas PD and the FBI. I think both were very happy with its performance.

I think it's ideal for men, and I'd trust it on deer or cougars. May do okay on bears, too, but I'd rather have Federal's 158 grain Hydra-Shok there, or Remington's rare (?) 165 grain designed for deer.

This is not to suggest hunting these animals with a .357, but if pressed into using it, I think the 145 grain Silvertip will suffice in most cases. It's probably a killer on peccary/javelina, too. And it'd likely disassemble an armadillo right convincingly. Add raccoons as another species it'd smash, and if a rabid one comes for you, that's good to know. I think they may attack even if not rabid, especially if you encounter several at once. I've seen some aggressive ones.

I have only a box or two of ST left, and wish I had more. It is one of the best items yet for .357 revolvers.