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Rim Rock Bullets provide the LSWC-HP and DEWC to Buffalo Bore.
.38 Special: Winchester +P vs. Buffalo Bore
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I personally like the BB line up and carry the 158 grain +P LSWCHP-GC in my model 60-7. If for some reason I am carrying an Airweight or NON +P rated revolver (older one's from the 50's) I'll use the BB NON +P version which is still way better than the Big 3 brands are IMHO.
I have done a bit of research and testing of .38 Special self defense loads currently on the market and after testing the Winchester, Remington & Federal versions of the FBI load, I found them to be quite anemic. Out of my Model 60-7 their muzzle velocity is in the mid 700 fps range. Way too slow IMHO for a reliable self defense round in cold weather areas where heavy clothing is routinely worn. The BB +P loading does an honest and very consistent 1,025 fps out of the 2" bbl and will show some expansion although admittedly not like a Semi Jacketed bullet will. Recoil is stiff, but NOT outlandish nor uncontrollable; and by the way I have the factory wooden grips on my Chief's Special along with a Tyler T Grip, - not a rubber set of grips which will admittedly adsorb more recoil. Now I am not going to say I would want to shoot 100 rounds of this stuff out of my 19 ounce gun, but 20 at a time is no sweat!
I also like the fact of a heavy 158 grain shooting to point of aim as opposed to the lighter bullets typically shooting high out of a short bbl.
If BB did not exist, I would probably go with the Speer 135 grain +P Gold Dots, although IMHO they are not as good as the BB ammo is. I just really like a heavier bullet moving at a faster speed. Let me also mention that the Buffalo Bore Bullets are EXTREMELY ACCURATE!
Until I actually tested this stuff myself, I was a doubter as well, but after the testing and shooting a bit of it, I am a believer!
Chief38
I have done a bit of research and testing of .38 Special self defense loads currently on the market and after testing the Winchester, Remington & Federal versions of the FBI load, I found them to be quite anemic. Out of my Model 60-7 their muzzle velocity is in the mid 700 fps range. Way too slow IMHO for a reliable self defense round in cold weather areas where heavy clothing is routinely worn. The BB +P loading does an honest and very consistent 1,025 fps out of the 2" bbl and will show some expansion although admittedly not like a Semi Jacketed bullet will. Recoil is stiff, but NOT outlandish nor uncontrollable; and by the way I have the factory wooden grips on my Chief's Special along with a Tyler T Grip, - not a rubber set of grips which will admittedly adsorb more recoil. Now I am not going to say I would want to shoot 100 rounds of this stuff out of my 19 ounce gun, but 20 at a time is no sweat!
I also like the fact of a heavy 158 grain shooting to point of aim as opposed to the lighter bullets typically shooting high out of a short bbl.
If BB did not exist, I would probably go with the Speer 135 grain +P Gold Dots, although IMHO they are not as good as the BB ammo is. I just really like a heavier bullet moving at a faster speed. Let me also mention that the Buffalo Bore Bullets are EXTREMELY ACCURATE!
Until I actually tested this stuff myself, I was a doubter as well, but after the testing and shooting a bit of it, I am a believer!
Chief38
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I have reached the same conclusion!
amd6547
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Badge 851 said "In all my years on the job, and in the military; I've never met anyone who wears four layers of denim - just sayin'."
My Levi denim jacket has the standard two chest pockets. The flap on the pocket is two layers. The top of the pocket is folded over...two more layers.
Finally, the jacket itself. Five layers.
My Levi denim jacket has the standard two chest pockets. The flap on the pocket is two layers. The top of the pocket is folded over...two more layers.
Finally, the jacket itself. Five layers.
PeterCartwright
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I stumbled on a couple boxes of the BB standard pressure wadcutter load in a Cabela's while traveling this weekend. They were marked down to $17.99 or something like that. I grabbed both boxes. 
I'll bet that load shoots very close to POA in my 3" J frame and 4" K frame guns. I can hear a paper plate calling my name...
PC
I'll bet that load shoots very close to POA in my 3" J frame and 4" K frame guns. I can hear a paper plate calling my name...PC
