44 HE second model

[caa]

I just recently aquired a 44HE 2nd model. It is in VERY average shape though it has a nice bore. My question is...

What sort of premium does nickle finish bring?
What sort of premium does 4" barrel bring??

I realize that in lesser condition guns the "premiums" dont bring nearly as much...but was still curious

Thanks in advance

 

[44 special Dave]

Well, first nickel finish will bring a premium.There were 2nd mod 44s made in nickel but few comapred to blue.

Now the big point; if it is indeed an original 4" barrel it is a rare gun.

Since i've been interested in S&Ws (1974), I've only seen one picture of an original 4" barrel 2nd mod 44 H.E.

A letter is in order to verify both nickel finish and 4" barrel. I think that combo if original is rare indeed.

Others will chime in I'm sure, but that's my two cents.

Dave

 

[peyton]

CAA welcome to the forum, pictures would help us a lot.

 

[caa]

will get photos up tonight.... if someone could link me the image posting instructions on here it would be helpful.

Hope to have them up by 9 pm ( have to get home from work first )

 

[H Richard]

From bdGreen

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This message has been edited. Last edited by: bdGreen, 16 May 2008 09:40 AM

 

[caa]

HE44 images

Here are the images of the HE 44. Let me know if you need more. OH ..by the way ..the serial number is 296xx and the barrel, cylinder and frame all match

 

[peyton]

You have done well!! Now how does it shoot??

 

[handejector]

GREAT gun!
However, it is a THIRD Model, not a Second. AKA the Model 1926.
They are also scarce in 4 inch.
I don't think nickel adds much of a premium because they are seen in nickel about as much as blue.

 

[44 special Dave]

Handejector said it already but just to ghime in;

3rd model H.E. 44 nearly as many nickle seen as blue.

Still the 4" is kinda scarce. 5" common, 5 1/2" really rare.

Dave

 

[SDH]

I'm no expert and this is no criticism of your neat revolver but...
See it'salready posted as a 3rd Model
Here's my Second Model #2211x, letter say shipped 1924, but it has wrong grips.

 

[frankynohankypanky]

Hi Steve,

Why do you say your 2nd Model has the wrong stocks? Is it because conventional wisdom says that S&W stocks of the 20's had no medallions?

I have an about 99% 5" 2nd Model, #26304, shipped April 1926 that is fitted with the most exquisite gold medallion stocks, and in his February list, David Carroll has a nickel gun, # 26080, that is similarly equipped. I am in fairly regular contact with him and so I asked about this matter and his reply was that, like so many things S&W, no medallions in the 20's is not a hard and fast rule.

I will arrive in Denver on May 10, and after the Gun Show I will be in Cody to see some of our mutual friends. I may call you if that is O.K. I do plan to also be in your area for a day or so.

Regards,

Frank S. SWCA #2052.

 

[handejector]

Hi Steve,

Why do you say your 2nd Model has the wrong stocks? Is it because conventional wisdom says that S&W stocks of the 20's had no medallions?

Frank,
We may see some guns shipped after 1918 that were already in inventory with gold medallions. I don't believe the factory manufactured any grips with gold medallions after control was returned by the Gov't in Jan 1919. I have a 44-2nd shipped in Nov, 1917 that wears gold meds, but that was the order of the day. I have seen many dozens shipped in the very early 20's that wore non medallion stocks that I either feel certain were original, or could still read the pencil number on.
Bottom line-
I dare not say "never", but I believe from 1919 on, non medallion grips were the norm.

 

[frankynohankypanky]

G'day Lee,

Thanks for your reply.

I do agree with you. You have certainly seen many more examples than me.

I just wanted to suggest to Steve that his stocks were not necessarily incorrect, although non- medallions were the norm.

Regards,

Frank S. SWCA #2052.

 

[SDH]

Frank - Lee,
The reason I said wrong is because Neal said wrong in the factory letter as I sent him a photo with the application. They are pencil marked but the only legible numbers are different than the frame.

The above 4" gun is a REAL honey!

Frank, I'd be delighted if you called and/or came by the shop. Slight chance I will be at the Denver Show(?). Cody is about 3-4 hours of magnificent landscape away! [email protected]
Best,
Steve