45 shot in Chigago over 4th weekend

[Whitwabit]

I've got a solution. It's based on this movie I saw the other night with Kurt Russell. It was called "Escape from New York". They just sealed off the city and called it a maximum security prison!

But you knew that

And getting us back on topic (S&W revolvers), it featured a scoped 67(-2?). Of course it didn't hold up as well as Adrienne Barbeau's bazongas against that Cadillac with the chandelier headlights. Anyhoo, that's how I picture Chicago.

That's where they tore down the bridges to Long Island and put all the graft there to kill themselves, and the Presidents helo crashes or something there ??

 

[Stevens]

And the band played on!
PS. ammo running low, send more!

 

[finesse_r]

Cook County Illinois (Chicago) had 45 people shot over the 4th weekend, how's that gun control working in Chicago?

Well that is one way to celebrate the 4th! Most people just use fireworks or fire guns into the ground. Actually shooting people is going a little too far as a celebration in my opinion.

 

[policerevolvercollector]

The acronym that comes to mind is "RICO". Don't know if there's the money, personnel or will to apply it; but something has to found to at least weaken the gangs' command structure.

I'm just afraid that Chicago is one of the cities where the gangs are too entrenched and the gang culture too pervasive for much success in trying to control them.

The father of the little boy who was killed apparently was the real target. He had been arrested many times, and was walking free. He should have been in prison for a very long time. But when the gangs threaten the lives and families of witnesses if they testify against these vicious criminals, building a case can be nearly impossible.

Yes, the system is broken. But how to fix it?

EDITED TO ADD: More gun control damn sure isn't the answer.

It's not working anywhere. I'd be intrigued to hear from some of our forum members from outside the U.S. on this topic. The strict gun laws in the U.K. haven't eliminated crime:

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These are both well worth watching despite the obvious gun bias.

 

[M&P Freak]

The root on the problem.

 

[M3Stuart]

That's where they tore down the bridges to Long Island and put all the graft there to kill themselves, and the Presidents helo crashes or something there ??

Correct.

Staying on topic; Would this work for Chicago? With that giant lake nearby?

 

[venomballistics]

45 shot is not accurate.
as a bedtime routine I follow tweets from people listening to scanners in various cities ... Chicago, Detroit, Omaha and a few others.

before I went to sleep, Chicago was at 62 shot.

45 is abhorrent enough for pushing gun control but the 62+ will refute the mayors claim that crime is down due to his efforts.

 

[spad124]

The bad guys have won unless or until the good people in these sanctioned areas of terror rise up and take matters into their own hands.

Actually, the court case in the 7th Circuit that struck down the Illinois concealed carry prohibition said that people in the gang and crime ridden areas of Chicago had much more need for concealed carry permits than the people living in high rises on the Gold Coast.

 

[cmort666]

Let's see:

• corrupt city "government"
• corrupt police
• corrupt citizens

No, I have no explanation for the violence...

 

[Franklin]

THEY GOT IT SOLVED..........

According to residents in Chicago's Englewood neighborhood, three signs created by locals are to be credited for a decrease in shootings in the area. The message on the signs: "Don't Shoot Kids At Play."

"The sign is helping," resident Kaliah Larry explains to CBS Chicago. "It's putting a message out there: if ya'll don't stop shooting now, how these kids gonna grow up?" The message was reportedly posted as a plea to local street gangs.

"Police like the signs and they give the community a lot of credit for helping reduce the number of shootings in the neighborhood.
"In addition to the signs, they applaud the mothers and fathers who walked the streets last weekend, talking to teens asking them to put down their guns and let the children grow up." Police have also increased patrols in the area.

There were no shootings in the neighborhood this year on the Fourth of July, compared to last year when there were more than a dozen shootings in the area.

"I was so happy to wake up the next morning and hear that in Englewood no one had gotten shot and killed," resident Yvonne Marshall tells CBS Chicago.

 

[rwsmith]

Everybody knows...

Everybody knows that banning guns reduces gun violence. Simple as that.

 

[1morethan8]

Could it be true!?

"93% of Blacks are killed by Blacks."

 

[Nevada Ed]

The father of the seven year old kid is reported to be a "ranking" gang member having been arrested 45 times!!!

They can be arrested 99 times.........unless the laws change
and put more muscle in them and put them away.

In Nevada if a gun is used in ANY crime.........
your butt is grass.

 

[cmort666]

I'm just afraid that Chicago is one of the cities where the gangs are too entrenched and the gang culture too pervasive for much success in trying to control them.

The gangs are deeply entrenched in city "government" AND the police.

Cops have been heavily involved in their drug trade. Google "Joseph Miedzianowski". The S.O.S. unit which was supposedly fighting drug and gun crime, switched to home invasions, burglaries and kidnappings for profit. Confidential police information has been found in the possession of gang members.

City council members have strong ties to gangs, and use them as political foot soldiers.

The media covers for all of this to curry favor with the power structure.

Chicago's murder rate is about as surprising as the collapse of Ramadi.

 

[Gator Monroe]

Tragic in some cases ...

 

[mqqn]

Just like how cocaine and heroin are illegal in all states, and now we can't get any and you never seen any on the streets? Oh, wait....

There are more guns in Wyoming than Chicago. Yet no slew of shootings here. Maybe it is something other than guns at work.

Populaton of Wyoming - 585,000
Population of Chicago - 2,720,000

Total people injured by gunshots on the July 4 weekend, as a percentage of the population = .00165 -

Additionally, not all of these were in the Chicago proper - many are in the surrounding cities.

Bad, yea - there are some bad areas of almost every town, and most certainly every town with millions of residents.

Just a point of perspective.

Add to that, many of the shootings are gang related, gang on gang crime, and not crimes against "civilians" if I can use that term.

I have never had trouble in Chicago - but I know where to stay away from and what time to stay away.

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mqqn

 

[cmort666]

I have never had trouble in Chicago - but I know where to stay away from and what time to stay away.

Other than perhaps Rahm Emmanuel's office, there's no longer any "safe" place in Chicago.

Robberies, rapes and murders are happening in the formerly "safe" tourist areas like the Loop and N. Michigan Ave.

The safest place to be is on the far side of the "Welcome to Indiana" sign and heading east.

 

[mqqn]

Other than perhaps Rahm Emmanuel's office, there's no longer any "safe" place in Chicago.

Robberies, rapes and murders are happening in the formerly "safe" tourist areas like the Loop and N. Michigan Ave.

The safest place to be is on the far side of the "Welcome to Indiana" sign and heading east.

Indiana is not without it's problems ...

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention statistics from 2009 and 2011 show Indiana ranks second-worst in the nation when it comes to high school girls saying they'd been forced to have sex.

The statute of limitations for Class B felony rapes is five years in Indiana.

Although each state defines rape differently, roughly 20 states have no statute of limitations whatsoever, and all but a few states have limits longer than Indiana."

Rape victims: Indiana is failing - TheIndyChannel.com

"2014 Indianapolis murders hit 3rd highest rate on record"
http://wishtv.com/2014/12/29/2014-indianapolis-murders-hit-3rd-highest-rate-on-record/

"Indy ranks in top ten for murder"
http://fox59.com/2015/01/18/indy-ranks-in-top-ten-for-murder/

Sensationalism aside, preparedness is the answer, not running away, at least in my opinion.

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mqqn