4516 vs. 4516-1 vs. 4516-2

[18DAI]

digiroc who makes those sights on your 457 in the left side of your picture? Are they night sights?

Im looking for a metal replacement rear sight for my 457. Im tired of breaking and replacing the rear factory plastic one. Regards 18DAI

 

[nocents]

digiroc who makes those sights on your 457 in the left side of your picture? Are they night sights?

Im looking for a metal replacement rear sight for my 457. Im tired of breaking and replacing the rear factory plastic one. Regards 18DAI

...18....got these on my 3913NL and love 'em....XS Sight Systems, Inc. - Products - 457....although they are steel...at that price they are not a steal

 

[MattyD380]

Thanks for input on the grips, guys. It'd be nice to try a wood option... but I will probably end up going with a grip sleeve.

I emailed KSD about 4516 grips. Never heard from them. I wonder if their CS45 grips would fit... other than leaving a gap at the bottom.

 

[dandyrandy]

Just little changes thats all. Doesnt really mean ones better than the other. I could care less about the dashes. About the only thing worth mentioning about it is what some people call the quote NO DASH unquote just means they are trying to squeeze more money out of ya when they try to sell the hunk of metal to you...

 

[model3sw]

4516-1 purchased new in 1992. I followed directions of -1 mags only. Never an issue of any type in all those years, however, total round count since new is less that 1000 rounds. Eats Hard ball and any manufacture of HP rounds with the greatest of ease.

I prefer the 4516-1 to the similar size Detonics compact 1911 probably because I like the S&W semi-auto action (back to the original 9mm pre-39s) and safety better than carrying a 1911 cocked and locked.

Always had an aversion to carry cocked and locked. If it was necessary, would pull hammer on 1911 to 1st click notch where hammer is off of the firing pin (yes I know there is a safety bar in there), safety off.

Of course that requires a manual manipulation of hammer to full cock before firing but I believe more likely to prevent an accidental discharge.

Best Regards ....

RSR S&WCA LM#1300

"that's a Smith & Wesson and you've had your six ... NOT ! "

 

[digiroc]

Bg Dot Night Sights ...

digiroc who makes those sights on your 457 in the left side of your picture? Are they night sights?

Im looking for a metal replacement rear sight for my 457. Im tired of breaking and replacing the rear factory plastic one. Regards 18DAI

They are indeed Tritium night sights. As nocents posted a link for them I've been late in reply.

I find the Big Dots to be excellent for fast acquisition in a carry gun. My old eyes pick up the large front sight quickly and just setting it on the rear post gives adequate combat accuracy.

Here are the same sights on my 3914 DAO (and no those are not my hands, I prefer pink nail polish):

digiroc

 

[digiroc]

My 3G .45 accumulation took a major jump forward with the acquisition of the heavily modified 4516-1 that BMCM spent four months in the making.

See the We're way beyond Dremel now, Melted & Melonited 4516-1 sticky thread concerning it's build. Too bad the photos are a victim of the hijack by photo bucket.

The Master Chief chose the Big Dots for it which happens to be my first choice for a carry gun. They are on my 457 I really like them for very quick acquisition and combat accuracy.

I put a set of Hogues on them to match the 457 and other carry guns I have, but I quickly went back to the factory Delrins as changing anything BMCM put on the gun seemed like sacrilege, so back to factory grips after 15 minutes.

Anyone have an idea of date of manufacture? The serial number starts with TED.



digiroc

 

[18DAI]

If BMCM ever offers that "package" of mods, I will be first in line. I even have a LNIB 4516-1 ready for him to improve.

Fine pistol! And extrodinary craftsmanship too! Regards 18DAI

 

[Arizona Gunner]

Every time I read a thread on the 4516 family (especially 18DAI's) I reminded of the old Snoopy cartoon... curse you, Red Baron! So far, I have picked up a 4553TSW and have a 4516-1 inbound. No telling what's next.

 

[18DAI]

You should get a 4516 no dash Arizona Gunner.

Its the thinnest and lightest of the 4516s. A fine pistol.

Its appropriate that my 4,516th post is about one of my favorite 45s. Regards18DAI

 

[fuzzymcnab]

So, 18DAI, where in this "dash" timeline does the 4536 fit in? (My personal favorite mini .45)
Thanks for sharing your expertise,
fuzzy

 

[18DAI]

The 4536 was made for one year only,1990-91. So that would put it in the end of 4516-1 production and prior to the 4516-2 start up.

Hope this helps! Regards 18DAI

 

[fuzzymcnab]

Yes it does, thanks, and thanks for the response to the initial posting, great info.
fuzzy

 

[toddstang]

Picked up a VG condition 4516-1 from a LGS for $400 on Weds.

I knew nothing about this model of Smith but glad I bought it!

 

[fuzzymcnab]

18DAI,
Regarding the magazines. Is there any real science to the "use only in 4516-1" marked magazines? I am well aware of the of the follower and the round retention dent upgrades on the full size 4500 series magazines, but they are all cross compatible for all 645/4506 guns to my knowledge. Are not all the 4516 mags also cross compatible?
blessings to you and yours, fuzzy

 

[harleyboy]

My no dash 4516 purchased new 25Oct89 has dual recoil springs. Not a reliable shooter.

 

[18DAI]

Fuzzymcnab the magazines with the yellow follower with the warning to use only in the 4516-1 work in all the variants of the 4516. I have 3 that are my "range only mags". No problems or issues using them in a 4516 no dash, 4516-1, 4516-2 or 4516-3 LE Special order.

Now that said, the only mags that I would use, for serious purpose, in ANY 4516 variant, are the last revision with the black followers. And I change my mag springs in my carry mags every 3 years or 3000 rounds. Cheap insurance to ensure my compact 45s maintain their bet your life reliability. Hope this helps! Best regards, 18DAI

 

[fuzzymcnab]

Yes sir, that does help indeed. I thought that was the case, and agreed, I have the most confidence in the later black follower mags, although I do not carry the 4536.
fuzzy

 

[fuzzymcnab]

Gosh, guess I should just post a picture while on the subject...