Post the three letter prefix of the serial number and we might be able to help out.
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Bill
4516 vs. 4516-1 vs. 4516-2
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Post the three letter prefix of the serial number and we might be able to help out.
Cheers
Bill
Not my gun, but there is a 4516-1 for sale on a local (to me) forum. Gun and two magazines. He's asking $550.00. If anyone is interested PM me for a link.
Not sure what I have here, as I just picked this up. Single guide spring, and has the bushing, or so I think it does. Looks like an upside "T" stamped on the left side trigger guard. Is this a 4516 no dash, or a 4516-3?
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mpi
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so, how closely related is the 4516TSW to the 4516?
Looking at the SN#, stepped frame, & hood size I'd say it's a 4516-0 (no dash). That's the skinny guide rod (.237") but it looks like it has the recoil spring for the fat guide rod (.290"), or maybe just the dual's outer spring. It should have the (factory) dual spring set on it instead.
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I haven't shot it yet. Will this spring setup be an issue? And yes, the guide rod is very skinny.
Some more pics of the 4516 vs. my 4516-1
Some more pics of the 4516 vs. my 4516-1
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You've only got half the spring in there the gun should have. The blue paint on the spring and how loose it is on the guiderod tells me it's the outer spring of the nested spring set. It's common practice around here to replace recoil springs on a newly acquired gun since you usually have no idea how much mileage is on the original spring/s. I recommend NOT shooting it until you have fresh springs in there.
The factory parts you need are:
108660000 outer spring
108670000 inner spring
Or if you can't find those,
SprinCo tactical made a batch of very high spec nested spring sets thanks the encouragement of folks on this forum
Towards the bottom of this page you'll find them.
Tactical Springs & Machine Gunners Lube
If all else fail you can still stick a 20# flatwire in there.
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Bill
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BMCM nailed it. Missing inner spring.
Good news is that its a 4516 no dash. Thinnest and lightest of the 4516's. Think 3913 on steroids.
Get an inner spring and go enjoy that fine 45. But do as BMCM advised and replace the inner spring before you shoot it. There were right at 5000 examples of the 4516 no dash made before it was discontinued. No sense risking damage to such a fine pistol.
mpi as far as I know, there was not a 4516TSW. While one should never say never where s&w is concerned, I have never even heard of a 4516TSW being prototyped.
The closest you can get to a 4516TSW, IMO, is a 4516-3. It has a few TSW features such as the larger barrel hood and MIM hammer and trigger. Hope this helps! Regards18DAI
Good news is that its a 4516 no dash. Thinnest and lightest of the 4516's. Think 3913 on steroids.
Get an inner spring and go enjoy that fine 45. But do as BMCM advised and replace the inner spring before you shoot it. There were right at 5000 examples of the 4516 no dash made before it was discontinued. No sense risking damage to such a fine pistol.mpi as far as I know, there was not a 4516TSW. While one should never say never where s&w is concerned, I have never even heard of a 4516TSW being prototyped.
The closest you can get to a 4516TSW, IMO, is a 4516-3. It has a few TSW features such as the larger barrel hood and MIM hammer and trigger. Hope this helps! Regards18DAI
Bought a 4516-2 with black hammer and trigger and by reading this forum found out how lucky I hit it. Price with 6 Mags was under $400 and I almost feel guilty. I want to thank you guys for saving me hours of research, you guys know your guns. I only buy guns made in the USA and this one had been used by a Local Sheriff's office which I don't think had ever been issued, incredibly low wear.
I have only one question, is there somewhere I can match the serial number to the year of manufacture? Serial # starts with VDV. Thanks for any help you can give.
I have only one question, is there somewhere I can match the serial number to the year of manufacture? Serial # starts with VDV. Thanks for any help you can give.
Serial number to year manufactured
Whymejake -
According to the SCSW (3rd ed), your serial number prefix would place its manufacture somewhere between 1994 and 1998.
Whymejake -
According to the SCSW (3rd ed), your serial number prefix would place its manufacture somewhere between 1994 and 1998.
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I just managed to lay my hands on a minty 4516 no dash, rare as hens teeth up here in Canada. Serial number is TCS2111. Any one have any idea of it's vintage?
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digiroc
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4516-2, 457's and a 4586 ...
Looking to add a .45 3rd Gen to my collection I purchased this 4516-2 from a popular auction site before I knew the differences between the dash or no dash models:
Following that, I went looking for the Model 457 to have as a carry gun (I prefer black guns for carry) I ended up getting two 457's :
Rounding out my collection (accumulation?) with this DAO 4586:
Now I guess I'll be looking for a Shorty 45.
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Looking to add a .45 3rd Gen to my collection I purchased this 4516-2 from a popular auction site before I knew the differences between the dash or no dash models:
Following that, I went looking for the Model 457 to have as a carry gun (I prefer black guns for carry) I ended up getting two 457's :
Rounding out my collection (accumulation?) with this DAO 4586:
Now I guess I'll be looking for a Shorty 45.
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MattyD380
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Nice looking .45s. I have a question for you about the grips...
Is the trigger reach any better with the wood grips than with the rubber grips?
I tried the rubber on my 4516-2. Just too fat for me. Wondering if the wood is worth a try.
It does kinda look like they're "scooped out" more on the backstrap.
Thanks.
digiroc
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If anything the Hogue wood grips are fatter than the rubber variety. The "scooped out" look is because the 4516 has an extended beavertail compared to the 457.
The standard Delrin plastic S&W grips are about the thinnest available, I'd try a straight grip set for the best reach for smallish hands.
Of course with wood you can sand them down to your liking.
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There's a similar thread about the grips on the 3913 on this forum. What I, and a number of other people have had success with is putting grip sleeves (either Hogue or Pachmyar) on over the stock Delrin grips. I think it gives a better feel to the grips and eliminates the sort of slippery feeling of the Delrin.
They are cheap enough that you can buy them and toss them if you don't like how they work.
My 457 came with the Hogues, and they feel pretty good to me. If I ever come across a cheap set of the OEM grips, I might give them a try.
They are cheap enough that you can buy them and toss them if you don't like how they work.
My 457 came with the Hogues, and they feel pretty good to me. If I ever come across a cheap set of the OEM grips, I might give them a try.
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