46% of EV owners.....

[Kiwi cop]

... are considering going back to an ICE vehicle.

Nearly half of American EV owners want to switch back to gas-powered vehicle, McKinsey data shows

Whoda thunk it

 

[Old 44 Guy]

It was a bad idea by our Govt. to reduce pollution from gas powered vehicles. But with all the stuff bolted on our cars today the idea doesn't work. besides our electric bills in Calif. are out of sight, gas is high but electric is higher. Another 25% higher next year predicted.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

Some people would rather believe their lying eyes than their loving and benevolent government minders. They need more Kool-Aid, maybe a few weeks in a re-education camp.

 

[Rudi]

Maybe in 50 years they'll work.

 

[Bald1]

Electric cars are for the golf course

 

[biku324]

So let's see - this means the majority, 54%, prefer the EV.

Darn arithmetic.

 

[ladder13]

Hang in there.
7 of 500,000 federally funded charging station have been built since authorized in 2021. Gotta start somewhere.

 

[cndrdk]

I read (probably on this forum) that 95% of all electric vehicle made are still on the road today.
The other 5% made it all the way home.

 

[NYlakesider]

I read (probably on this forum) that 95% of all electric vehicle made are still on the road today.



The other 5% made it all the way home.

That is if in route they found a charging station that actually works!-

 

[IAM Rand]

More importantly I think that those that don't own an EV are going to not want one or buy one. Hybrid is the way, proven technology. Just like nuclear power, clean coal, natural gas,........ We need proven technology not pie in the sky.

 

[ppeeks]

We live in Texas in the winter and England in the summer. We have a BMW 3 Series and a Dodge Ram pickup in Texas and a plug-in hybrid in England. Our Texas vehicles would not be practical in England with regular gasoline costing about $8/gal (not to mention that the truck wouldn't fit on most of our local roads), and our England vehicle would make absolutely no sense whatsoever in Texas given the distances we drive daily when in Texas, even without any need for charging stations (it plugs into a regular wall outlet).

 

[Onomea]

I was reading an article a while ago that among other things made the point that EVs are in their relative infancy and are accordingly making large leaps forward in technology yearly. This also means that they depreciate more quickly than ICE vehicles, so if inclined to go EV there are great deals on used ones.

ICE vehicles, on the other hand, having been around for over a century, are pretty much maxed out in terms of technological development. This was brought home to me recently when I went for a ride in a beautifully restored 1970 Mustang. Man, it was loud in there! And when we returned from our outing and parked, the smell of oil and gas was remarkable. It was a great, vivid experience, and I really enjoyed it, but, unsurprisingly, I was struck by the difference 50 years has made in automobile technology.

 

[JMD999]

They are good for around town, and short trips, same as120 yrs ago. These are nothing new. Range and recharge- still the same problem. No lithium batteries but same issues. If your well to do and want a "novelty" go fo it.

 

[raljr1]

I think the best scenario is two cars. EV for short trips around town, ICE when you want to travel more than an hour or two away.

Hybrids are where i read that Toyota is focusing its efforts. Lots of sense there

 

[Onomea]

The link below is to an interesting article on the improvement in range for EVs:

...In the US, the number of EV options that can go 300 miles or more on a single charge, which many consider the threshold for a long-range vehicle, jumped to 30 models at the beginning of 2024, a 500% increase in three years. An additional 20 are set to go on sale later in the year, according to a new analysis by Bloomberg Green. Long-range EVs now come in all shapes and sizes, from the swoopy Hyundai Ioniq 6 sedan that offers 361 miles per charge to the armor-clad Tesla Cybertruck with 340 miles....




Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[johngalt]

My brother bought an EV in Chicago and drove it to his home in Florida. It was a miserable experience and he sold it.

 

[ameridaddy]

The link below is to an interesting article on the improvement in range for EVs:

...In the US, the number of EV options that can go 300 miles or more on a single charge, which many consider the threshold for a long-range vehicle, jumped to 30 models at the beginning of 2024, a 500% increase in three years.

My ICE car goes ~450 highway miles on a tank of gas, and takes ~ 10 minutes to refill for 450 more. OTOH, how many hours do those EV's take to fully recharge to 300 mile capability after their 300 miles? 2? 3? 4? 8?
And how many hours will I wait for the guy ahead of me to finish charging before it's my turn?
Sorry, there's a long, long way to go technologically before EV will tempt me, and we haven't even talked about the necessary grid growth to support a US fleet of majority EV vehicles. Until there is a revolutionary breakthrough in battery technology AND a massive growth of electrical grid capacity, a conversion to EV just isn't there unless we all stay home most of the time.
Maybe in 10-15 more years?

BTW, ladder 13 said "7 of 500,000 federally funded charging station have been built since authorized in 2021."
I just read an article that $7 billion federal dollars was earmarked for that in 2021 and we're now up to 8 stations built on that program. Maybe we should think 20-30 years instead of 10-15.

 

[CH4]

That is if in route they found a charging station that actually works!-

Yeah, if the diesel generator that powers some of the charging station has fuel.

 

[ladder13]

Two cars? If I were concerned about a car for around town, I would sell my gas car (which works around town and beyond ) and buy a hybrid and be done.
Why pay two insurances, two vehicle regs, two annual property taxes that are required in some states, etc.
Where's the savings?

 

[ladder13]

My ICE car goes ~450 highway miles on a tank of gas, and takes ~ 10 minutes to refill for 450 more. OTOH, how many hours do those EV's take to fully recharge to 300 mile capability after their 300 miles? 2? 3? 4? 8?
And how many hours will I wait for the guy ahead of me to finish charging before it's my turn?
Sorry, there's a long, long way to go technologically before EV will tempt me, and we haven't even talked about the necessary grid growth to support a US fleet of majority EV vehicles. Until there is a revolutionary breakthrough in battery technology AND a massive growth of electrical grid capacity, a conversion to EV just isn't there unless we all stay home most of the time.
Maybe in 10-15 more years?

BTW, ladder 13 said "7 of 500,000 federally funded charging station have been built since authorized in 2021."
I just read an article that $7 billion federal dollars was earmarked for that in 2021 and we're now up to 8 stations built on that program. Maybe we should think 20-30 years instead of 10-15.

Only 7.5 billion of a nearly 1.2 trillion Bill shows the urgency.
Coming soon "just give us more money and we'll make this work".