5906.... again

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This is my latest purchase. I was forced to part with a 5906 TSW during a divorce 13 years ago and I always promised myself to get another 5906. It's not a TSW but it's in great shape and shoots like a dream. The only change I had to make was swapping out the Hogue rubber grips for a new old stock straight factory grip. I am looking for a 4006 or 411 as my next S&W firearm. Kinda hoping it's the 411 (my first duty gun, private purchase back then) but a 4006 is awesome as well.
 

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I believe that 3rd Generation Smith & Wesson pistols are going ro increase in value same way the revolvers did. I had to give up several when I got divorced and my my S&W revolvers. Not to mention my 422. What hurts is the magazines. I had a mint condition 639 with 7 factory mags. I had 25 5900 series factory mags. When I bought my 411, i picked up 10 factory mags because i was going through a reserve police academy. I will get what I can when I can. On the list is the 411, 4006 and 915 and magazines!
 
+1 for the above that the 5906 will last forever. Definitely in the the zombie apocalypse bag with a few thousand rounds. I still don't own any tupperware as I'm addicted to metal. Have never had a 3rd gen hiccup on anything. Would run a 5906 against any Kimber any day. They just plain work.
 
This one is police surplus and it's still going gangbusters but it's been a while since it came out of the safe:

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I got my first year, (1989,) one @ 10 yrs ago for almost nothing. It had to have been a duty pistol because the right side of the straight grip was really scarfed up. I'm guessing Security and not LE because it was nasty dirty inside and out and "idiot scratched". The slide wouldn't go on due to the bent ejector/magazine depressor lever. You can see where the slide was being forced on without depressing the lever.

It's running strong now and will forever. To me the extra 3913/6906 top end I have and 17 rnd Mec-Gar magazines are positive changes. It's still heavy but a different option.

Jim
 

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Aukula1062, I think it would be fun to compare/contrast the two different .40 cal models you might be shopping for next. I own examples of both so I enjoy commenting on them. (pair of 5906's and have had three, now only a single 915 also.)

My conclusion: get one of each of the 4006 and the 411!

With the conclusion out of the way, let's look at the chase for the pistols. I think the 4006 will be extremely easy to find. They made a gujillion or possibly 1.5 gujillion of them. Me personally, I don't find the TSW guns to be an upgrade. Yes, I understand the selling points they used when marketing them, I've just not been convinced there was any real world benefit in "matched" upper and lower, upgraded frame and frame rails and (speaking for myself only) the tactical accessory rail is an eyesore, as is the loud billboard lettering. My experience is 5906/4006 TSW's my best shooting bro owns and the 4566 TSW that I owned. Had it been a non-TSW, I'd still have that 4566.

To me, the 4006 just looks, feels and acts like a 5906 with a little more horsepower on tap.

Now the 411 is an interesting beast. It's the alloy frame "Value Line" .40cal partner to the Model 915. We've discussed the 915 many, many times but it's always a good one to talk about. Short version is that S&W was taking a beating in sales to new Tupperware guns so they wanted to try and offer a lower cost 3rd Gen option and the 915 and 411 were the first attempt.

I've often argued that S&W failed in this attempt and that is NOT an indictment of the pistols, it's exactly the opposite. S&W made them only for parts of two years, I believe they realized that they did not reduce their cost enough. Net result is that the 915/411 are great guns and in my opinion, they were barely "cheapened."

Here's my point though… the 915 was punched out in incredible volume, many even got shipped off the continent on contracts and just a ton of the Model 915 were made.

The same just isn't true for the 411. And believe me, I wish I had hard data to back this up but I don't. What I do have is a lot of experience in watching the market.

I will pull a guess from a dark region… I suspect the 915 was made in a volume 5x to 6x of the 411. And to be completely honest, I don't know WHY because these were made in the heyday of the .40cal cartridge.

It's possible that the .40 was never much popular outside of the USA and that's why the 915 is so easily found and the 411 is absolutely scarce, it's as good an argument as anything.

I think your search for a 4006 will be incredibly easy compared to your chase for a 411. Me personally, I will almost always choose real steel over anything alloy, but in this case, the scarcity of the 411 is really a draw for me. I love the one that I have!
 
Two thoughts:
- I've got a 410 and 4046 (my 4006 is TSW and CHP). I gather the only difference between the 411 and 410 is the 410 was the answer to the mag ban and carries a 10 round mag. Wondering about numbers made: more or less than the 411?

-I had our gunsmith wonder member here convert a 5946 to SA/DA so sold my 5906...and now I think I'll try mounting a 6906 slide atop it. Just for curiosity sake.
 
This is my latest purchase. I was forced to part with a 5906 TSW during a divorce 13 years ago and I always promised myself to get another 5906. It's not a TSW but it's in great shape and shoots like a dream. The only change I had to make was swapping out the Hogue rubber grips for a new old stock straight factory grip. I am looking for a 4006 or 411 as my next S&W firearm. Kinda hoping it's the 411 (my first duty gun, private purchase back then) but a 4006 is awesome as well.


Not sure if this is allowed but Guns.com had some 411s a while back for good price a I recall - might be worth checking there and of course GB.
 
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I believe that 3rd Generation Smith & Wesson pistols are going ro increase in value same way the revolvers did. I had to give up several when I got divorced and my my S&W revolvers. Not to mention my 422. What hurts is the magazines. I had a mint condition 639 with 7 factory mags. I had 25 5900 series factory mags. When I bought my 411, i picked up 10 factory mags because i was going through a reserve police academy. I will get what I can when I can. On the list is the 411, 4006 and 915 and magazines!

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Two thoughts:
- I've got a 410 and 4046 (my 4006 is TSW and CHP). I gather the only difference between the 411 and 410 is the 410 was the answer to the mag ban and carries a 10 round mag. Wondering about numbers made: more or less than the 411?

I sometimes hesitate to comment, I never want folks to think I'm slagging their pistol but no, the 915/411 and 910/908/410 are not the same except for magazines.

The 910/410 are the result of S&W realizing that the first attempt at the Value Line did not lower their costs enough.

The 910/410 has a different barrel, lacks the more svelte contour of the standard 3rd Gens and came with some plastic internal bits that many folks don't care for.

The most obvious difference is that the 910/410 are quite blocky in appearance. To me they look like "designer imposters."
 
I believe that 3rd Generation Smith & Wesson pistols are going ro increase in value same way the revolvers did. I had to give up several when I got divorced and my my S&W revolvers. Not to mention my 422. What hurts is the magazines. I had a mint condition 639 with 7 factory mags. I had 25 5900 series factory mags. When I bought my 411, i picked up 10 factory mags because i was going through a reserve police academy. I will get what I can when I can. On the list is the 411, 4006 and 915 and magazines!


New factory mags available for 5906 / 915 - check Midway. Check eBay or GB for 4006 mags.
 
Good score and congrats on getting a 5906 back in your hands after all those years. Hope it gives much enjoyment.

Prices have definitely moved upward on these in recent years. Luckily mags and small parts (little springs, etc.) are still easily available.
 
Thank you Sevens! Iconcur. S&W was having huge problems at that time. They had just introduced the L frame a few years before that and after Noth Hollywood, agencies just wanted double stacked autos. I believe they were still owned by an South American company. Glock beat them to the market with their own .40.cal cartridge with the G22. There was a lot going on back then. S&W definitely had an up hill battle. The first Glock amores class I found out the G 17 frame cost $7.00 to mold. S&W's answer was the value line. I also had the 915. An absolute excellent hand gun. It was basically a 5904 without the ambi decocker. I also owned a 910. Different animal all together. I didn't care for it. I believe they could have left the locking lug and made the gun viable for sales. The writing was on the wall toward polymer framed striker fired guns. That's not sour grapes, Glocks are excellent firearms. I carried a department issue G 19 for 17 years and I still own a G19. I have 9 pieces of Tupperware as a matter of fact. Mostly 9mm but also a 10mm. The 411 is a sentimental choice for me over the 4006. It was my first "duty" gun. As far as durability, the aluminum used by S&W was fantastic. Having said that I would love to have a 915, 4006 and the 411. That 5904 is the only one I've never owned. You are correct about the 4006 making a better next purchase. I have zero interest in Sig, Beretta, HK or any other traditional double/single action pistol. All fine makers and firearms but not my cup of tea. S&W 3rd gen auto loaders are my weakness now. One down and 3 to go!
 
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