6-10 groove

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Hello friends, was wondering what year SW made the change to the back straps from 6 groove to 10. I’ve looked it up a couple times and I can’t seem to find that answer. My 54 HP has 6 my 28 ND has 10 but shipped in 62. I’ve enrolled into the College of Smith and Wesson Knowledge a while ago and am still learning. This is gonna take more than 4 years isn’t it.lol.Thanks, Don
 
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SCSW 4th Edition says...
1956: Ten groove grip frames replaced 6 grooves on target revolvers.
I have a .357 Combat Magnum that shipped August 1956 K261590 and a .44 Magnum that shipped December 1956 S153063 that both have 6 grooves.
 
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Must not have been early in 1956, maybe well in to 1957? I have a 44 Magnum that shipped in November of 1956 and it has six grooves and a Combat Magnum that likely shipped in August of 1956 also with six grooves (NO NOT six, 10) (K262XXX range). I have another at K264XXX which has ten grooves.

Edit: Turns out my memory is even worse than I thought; although my spreadsheet notes said six. The Combat Magnum (K262xxx) is a ten groove not six. Thanks to snw19_357 for raising the question. Sorry about the error.
 
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Looking at my database it appears to me that the change was done around K2617xx.
Ship dates for pre-19s are all over the place, by years, but it looks like late 1956. Is that fiscal year '57?
 
The 6 groove to 10 groove tang change is a good example of how a change order comes down at a certain date but sometimes happens at different times on different models not to mention that SW did not build guns in numerical order but in batches and then placed them in the vault, they appear to be shipped according to what the employee had easy access to that day, my brain pictures the older guns languishing at the bottom of the stack until supply dwindled down or a large order dipped into them but thats just speculation on my part.
Doc 44 had some interesting notes on some 10 groove tang 44 Magnums shipping before some of the presumably older 6 groove tang ones but IIRC some of those 1956 10 groove 44 examples actually had lower serial numbers than some 6 groove guns that shipped in 1957 but thats just from memory so will leave that up to his expertise to explain if true.
If true it is interesting.
In my mind the 6 groove 44 Magnums generally fade out in early 57, Iirc early Combat Magnums had the 6 groove tangs up to sometime below the K262000 like K26177x .
From my notes I see some 10 groove tang CMs in the K263xxx range that shipped summer of 1956 so not a clear 1956 vs 1957 thing especially when comparing serials, tangs and ship dates on 44 Magnums vs .357 Combat Magnums.
 
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The 6 groove to 10 groove tang change is a good example of how a change order comes down at a certain date but sometimes happens at different times on different models not to mention that the completed guns were not shipped in numerical order but what appears to be what the employee had easy access to, my brain pictures the older guns at the bottom of the stack perhaps languishing there until a small restock or large order dipped into them but thats just speculation on my part.
Doc 44 had some interesting notes on some 10 groove tang 44 Magnuns shipping before some of the presumably older 6 groove tang ones but IIRC some of those 1956 10 groove examples actually had lower serial numbers than some 6 groove guns that shipped in 1957 but thats just from memory so will leave that up to his expertise to explain if true.
If true it is interesting.
In my mind the 6 groove 44 Magnums generally fade out in early 57, I used to think that the early Combat Magnuns had the 6 groove up to sometime below the K262000 like K26177x or something like that, but as an example in post 3 above we see a K262xxx CM reported as a 6 groove tang.
From my notes I see some 10 groove tang CMs in the K263xxx range shipping summer of 1956 so not a clear 1956 vs 1957 thing especially when comparing serials, tangs and ship dates on 44 Magnums vs .357 Combat Magnums.
Except I was wrong about the six grooves at post #3, that one is actually ten. I dug it out and checked it today. Sorry about the confusion, we don't need more of that.
 
The change from six grooves to ten grooves on the tangs for N-frame revolvers took place at approximately serial number S166700 (mid-1956) and is independent of the shipping date. I don't have any data on the change for K-frames or why the change was made.

Bill
 

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