Reloading issue with 625, 45 acp. Loading 200 grain SWC. Issue is fit in the cylinder. Can not close cylinder. Bullets will fit in a chamber checker (EGW). I even tighten up the the crimp but still and issue. Any tips will be appreciated.
625 reload issue, can not close cylinder
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05CarbonDRZ
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What is the OAL if the rounds that don't fit in the cylinder?
Skip Sackett
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Seat the bullets deeper in the case. Have no driving band showing of precious little.
A picture would be nice too!
Just sayin'
Take one of your LSWC with out being loaded and try to push it through the cylinder. Not gonna happen. The outermost driving band is too big for your throat. That's okay, if you are not running an uber max load, just seat them a tad deeper and try again. It is either this OR you didn't remove enough of the bell and it is getting stuck as it nears the chamber ledge.
A picture would be nice too!
Just sayin'
Take one of your LSWC with out being loaded and try to push it through the cylinder. Not gonna happen. The outermost driving band is too big for your throat. That's okay, if you are not running an uber max load, just seat them a tad deeper and try again. It is either this OR you didn't remove enough of the bell and it is getting stuck as it nears the chamber ledge.
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
Pictures of your rounds please. Otherwise it is like trying to shave in the dark. You might get it done with out hurting yourself but it ain't likely.
Your rounds should look like this if you want them to work in your M625:
The stuff that is sticking out above the case is exposed lead. The lead that is in the case is non-exposed lead.
Your rounds should look like this if you want them to work in your M625:
The stuff that is sticking out above the case is exposed lead. The lead that is in the case is non-exposed lead.
Are you using a roll or taper crimp? Taper is the way to go...
fredj338
Member
A case gage is nice but tells you nothing about OAL. If the shoulder of the LSWC is too far out of the case, it's may hit the cyl throat if the throat is bullet dia or smaller. The other issue would be high primers or bent moon clips. If the round fits the case gage, then it is probably sized & crimped properly. SO check moon clips first, then primers, then OAL. FWIW, LSWC is the worst choice for the 625 unless you are shooting slow fire target. Speed loading them is almost futile.
BlueOvalBandit
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Do they chamber fully without the moonclip? If no and they check fine on the EGW, its the cylinder. It's undersized, out of round, or both, it needs reaming.
It only takes 1 bad round to stick a moonclip.
It only takes 1 bad round to stick a moonclip.
I had an issue with LSWC in a 625 because the bullets were seated too deep (even though a little shoulder was showing proud). These were flat base bullets and were actually bulging the case just a bit, making them bind in the chambers when loaded in moonclips. I seated them a bit farther out and they work fine. The pic Skip posted should be golden, but each gun is unique.
TSQUARED
Member
IF the reloaded rounds fit the EGW case gauge then you probably do not have bullets seated slightly off center. The other two causes would be 1) high prmers and 2) exposed lead at front of case hitting the edge of chamber.
I run all the .45ACP I load thru a Lee final sizing die as the last step in the reloading process. This assures that the cartridge diameter is correct and should allow the ammo to chamber in any firearm. Some guy's don't like to do it because thay feel it may deform the bullet and affect accuracy. I have never seen any negative effects.
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USBP SW
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When I load for the 625, I leave no lead exposed above the brass. I size my bullets to .452 and the cylinder throats are approximately .451. The throat diameter can vary considerably and if your bullets are snug when you try to push them into the cylinder throat, this will cause a problem. You can take a bullet (before loading it) and push it through the cylinder, to test the theory.
It's something to try,
Good luck, Steve
It's something to try,
Good luck, Steve
cfplinker
Member
I had a similar problem with my 625. I was using the same amount of taper crimp as on my auto-loader i.e. crimping to a diameter of .470. The failure to chamber didn't happen with every round, but usually once in every moon clip. I played with it a little and found that I could usually get all the rounds to chamber if I rotated the offenders a quarter to a half turn. That told me that the problem was at the mouth of the case. I tightened the crimp down to .468 and the problem went away. Try it and see if it works for you. If it reduces, but does not eliminate the problem increase the crimp some more.
The brand of brass shouldn't matter in a 625 unless it has exceptionally tight chambers.
First things first - will your gun allow ordinary factory ball loads to chamber without issue? If it will, and if your handloads will fit a maximum ammunition gage, then the only thing I can think that remains would be bullets not seated deep enough. For a bullet like Skip Sackett shows (H&G #68 type) 1.250 is the correct OAL. If you have another design, like the old Lyman 452360 or the old H&G #130, your AOL could be the problem.
Are the throats (exit bores) of your chambers clean - all of them? Have you tried to push a bullet through them? You may have a build-up of crud in your chambers if they are not being cleaned thoroughly.
First things first - will your gun allow ordinary factory ball loads to chamber without issue? If it will, and if your handloads will fit a maximum ammunition gage, then the only thing I can think that remains would be bullets not seated deep enough. For a bullet like Skip Sackett shows (H&G #68 type) 1.250 is the correct OAL. If you have another design, like the old Lyman 452360 or the old H&G #130, your AOL could be the problem.
Are the throats (exit bores) of your chambers clean - all of them? Have you tried to push a bullet through them? You may have a build-up of crud in your chambers if they are not being cleaned thoroughly.
