642 + Pachmayr Compac = Perfection

The key to this whole discussion, no, not key, but keys, plural, are pocket carry and shooting regularly. My 642 came, of course, with S&W rubber boot grips - made by Hogue, or Pachmayr, I guess, but I'm uncertain. They were excellent for pocket carry. However, about a year or so ago, give or take, I switched to Eagle grips that are like this:

http://www.eaglegrips.com/guns/imag...=200&height=&image=/images/SS3.websitepic.jpg


but look like this:

http://www.eaglegrips.com/guns/image.php/images/SS2[1].jpg?width=200&height=&image=/images/SS2[1].jpg

Assuming those images appear or are accessible....

Anyway, they, too, are excellent for pocket carry, maybe even better than the rubber stocks. If I'm going to carry IWB or OWB then I'm going to carry a K-frame snubby; to me there isn't any point in giving up the extra round once the gun is out of my pocket.

So if you're skipping pocket carry because you're using larger grips it seems to make better sense to me to carry a larger gun but, okay, let's assume that's your only gun, then, okay, carry it that way if it works for you.

As for the second key, I am sure everyone here has read "you-name-the-gun-writer" who has said, about these small revolvers, that they were made to be shot a little and carried a lot. So, unless a J-frame truly is your only gun, why would you be shooting it a lot? I can think of far more pleasant range fun than to bang away with J-frames. On occasion I'll take one to the range, shoot a few rounds into targets at standard defensive/combat distances to remind myself how the gun shoots and where it hits, if it's off, what the recoil is like, etc., and then it's back in the pocket for quite some time to come. The guns can handle regular shooting - most human's hands cannot handle regular shooting of a J-frame, and it's not necessary. Not to me, anyway. YMMV - and I'm not being argumentative; if you like to punish your hands like that, please, feel free, be my guest, it's a free country.

***GRJ***
 
I have a 637 with Pach grips. I couldn't hold on to the sight picture after the first +P
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shot with boot grips. Since shooting single action defensively isn't a good idea (I'd hate to explain it on the stand), I needed a better grip. Voila. http://thecartridgebox.com/2013/06/08/i-like-big-butts/
 
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I had to put a set of boot grips on my 640-1...

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.. to be able to hold on to it when I shoot 357 mag.:D

This type of rubber grip lets you use an HKS speed loader with 38 spl. a little easier (faster) than the longer 357, but I use speed strips anyway because they conceal better.

I don't pocket carry this one, I use an OWB holster and I may even end up trying a Crimson Trace at some point.:)

GF
 
642 grips

Those might be a bit big for CC use at times. I use several different grips on my J frame collection. I have one fitted with the Hogue Bantams for pocket carry in a Kramer holster, another is fitted with the Desantis Clip Draw holster used in conjuncton with the MIC minimalist holster for appendix. I do use your grip on my 640 which is carried in a FIST OWB. Biggest problem with the J frames is they are so versatile you have to have several options to make them a year round option IMHO.
 
Love wood grips but could not find a pair that would allow me to shoot comfortably. When the same way you did and now can shoot my 36 as much as I want to.

So these Compact grips also are made for the J frame 36 .. ?? could you give me the grip model number .. Thank you very much ..
 
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I love the Compacs on a J-Frame, but it rules out pocket carry where my 442 lives.

If I can conceal a Compac-wearing 442 on my belt, I carrying my G-26.

I'd love to find a set of boot grips that covers the backstrap and reduces recoil.
 
As for the second key, I am sure everyone here has read "you-name-the-gun-writer" who has said, about these small revolvers, that they were made to be shot a little and carried a lot. So, unless a J-frame truly is your only gun, why would you be shooting it a lot? I can think of far more pleasant range fun than to bang away with J-frames. On occasion I'll take one to the range, shoot a few rounds into targets at standard defensive/combat distances to remind myself how the gun shoots and where it hits, if it's off, what the recoil is like, etc., and then it's back in the pocket for quite some time to come. The guns can handle regular shooting - most human's hands cannot handle regular shooting of a J-frame, and it's not necessary. Not to me, anyway. YMMV - and I'm not being argumentative; if you like to punish your hands like that, please, feel free, be my guest, it's a free country.

***GRJ***[/QUOTE]
I don't buy the "shoot a little, carried a lot way of thinking. I carry J frames for my carry gun. God forbid, if I had to use my gun to save my life or a family members life, It will probably be a J frame. I want to be as good of a shot as possible. I shoot my carry gun every time I'm at the range. With the proper grips a J frame is easy to shoot. It doesn't punish my hands at all. Why would I carry a gun that I don't shoot all that much?
 
I don't buy the "shoot a little, carried a lot way of thinking. I carry J frames for my carry gun. God forbid, if I had to use my gun to save my life or a family members life, It will probably be a J frame. I want to be as good of a shot as possible. I shoot my carry gun every time I'm at the range. With the proper grips a J frame is easy to shoot. It doesn't punish my hands at all. Why would I carry a gun that I don't shoot all that much?
I agree. For me, a J frame takes practice to remain proficient. If I'm going to carry one, I'm going to practice with it. I just ordered some Compacs to make that practicing easier. :)
 
Been experimenting with the pocket carry thing and found concealing this grip is doable in my relaxed fit jeans but not the regular fit. In cargo style shorts and dress slacks it's fine.

About carrying a j-frame OWB, I love it. If I can get away with OWB in summer clothing with confidence the gun is secure and concealed I'm doing it. I get my pocket back for my wallet, keys or whatever, I can un-holster the gun easier than I can from within my pocket or IWB, and it is so much more comfortable. Shorts, good belt, undershirt, tee-shirt, flip-flops and a gun that I practice with.

I'm really loving the j-frame platform and will most likely end up with more than a few. :D

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Practice what you preach... oops, I mean carry. The only revolvers I own are j-frame S&W's. I will admit that I usually carry an airweight Chief, but do my practicing with the steel-framed or stainless version. But since they are set up exactly the same and have the same DA trigger pull, that isn't really cheating IMHO.
"I like big butts", hmmmm..... small frame and a big butt, eh? Reminds me of a description of the Harley Sportster: "skinny frame, big jugs".
 
M60 3"

My M60 3" stainless with factory rubber(?) grips is a WONDERFUL gun to shoot, even with +P ammo. My gun is 20 yrs. old and I carry +P ammo in it and practice sparingly with it. I haven't had a problem with doing this, but S&W says not to do this. Has any one had a problem with this practice? I love the 3" bbl.-more velocity, less recoil(full under lug bbl) and not harder to conceal. I am looking for a OWB holster-any suggestion?
 
I don't see any photos of the Pachmayr Compac Professional posted. Anybody use these? They have approx the same shape as a Compac (but without the "pinky notch" as I recall), but with an open back strap which make it a bit smaller. Probably not as good at absorbing recoil as a regular Compac, but more to hang onto than a boot grip.

I have a set of Pachmayr Compac Professional that I bought back in 1977 and put on my first M-60. They are worn and cracked and I wish I could find a new set.

Today I keep a set of Compacs on my 638 for IWB carry (sometimes also in big pockets) and I keep a set of UM Boot Grips on my 642 for pocket carry. The 642 get a lot more carry but the 638 gets shot more.
 
Pics of grips on 640-1

Here is my old 640-1 with the compact grips on it and XS night sight.


Tony P.
 

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