I've had my 929 for about a year and the accuracy from a rest is quite good. I'm talking short range here of 30'. The rest is far from perfect as am I but I get a ragged hole. Free hand double action is another story. I have always shot double action with the compensator on. Well today, after having some trouble IE being able to hit a 2 1/2 circle at 30 feet 3 out of 8, I took the compensator off and shot the gun with a bare muzzle. All 8 shots were touching. Thinking it was a lucky cylinder I tried it again. Not quite as good but all in the 2 1/2" circle. Put on the cap that came with the gun and tried that, almost as good as bare. IMHO, the compensator is at fault for the poor accuracy issues. Tomorrow I will try the bare muzzle at 75'. I am using Winchester 147 grain jacketed ammo. Anyone else have these findings with this gun?
929 going back. Horrible accuracy
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If the bottom two picture of your post above is the 929 then I'd agree it's ECM/EDM. If they're saying the 627PC is not broached they are wrong (mine was made in Mar-2014). It's clearly visible.
As far as the ECM/EDM being more accurate than broached it seems strange the Performance Center would use broached (on some guns), instead, if it wasn't as accurate especially since it's a optional process now that virtually all are ECM/EDM.
Personally I don't have any problems with accuracy in my ECM/EDM barrels, with plated/jacketed bullets, but mine don't like cast lead bullets (leading) at the speed I want to shoot them at, so I don't use them.
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Im sure Ive read other threads stating the bore is .357 so to run .358 cast or .357 jacketed etc.
Thats sad because only hand loading of 9mm will allow this. Most factory ammo will be smaller and is perhaps therefore the issue with accuracy.
One previous poster had good results with .358 so Id suggest that this is where the issue lies. Perhaps you should check the bore and/or try handloads..
I have one on order and intend to handload with .357 projectiles for ipsc due to posts like this and others.
Thats sad because only hand loading of 9mm will allow this. Most factory ammo will be smaller and is perhaps therefore the issue with accuracy.
One previous poster had good results with .358 so Id suggest that this is where the issue lies. Perhaps you should check the bore and/or try handloads..
I have one on order and intend to handload with .357 projectiles for ipsc due to posts like this and others.
On S&W's product page for the 929 there's a different JM video & he says the same thing.
Of course the features listed on their page doesn't state that though. No surprise.
If we could see a 929 muzzle, with a good crown, it would probably be more apparent too.
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I know the 929 will primarily be purchased by gun enthusiast who typically reload. But these guns are also sold to people who don't reload and the average joes. It's a black eye, IMO, for S&W to sell a "performance center" labeled weapon that requires it to be fitted,tuned, and then use special reloaded ammo.
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I haven't seen anything about what S&W did to your 929 or if what they did helped. Based on the dates I would think you'd have the gun back by now. Always like to hear about the results...
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I'm getting satisfactory accuracy out of my 929, using plated bullets. However when I purchased it, I went thru 3 other 929's before I found one that had the cylinder throats to my liking.
I had 3 jacketed bullets with me, .356 ,, .357 , & .358 to check the throats. Some cylinders would take three different dia. ??
I had 3 jacketed bullets with me, .356 ,, .357 , & .358 to check the throats. Some cylinders would take three different dia. ??
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Ahhh yes, I got the gun back a couple of weeks ago and they did absolutely nothing. Test fired it, the 3 Bullet group was about 4 or 5 inches according to the picture they sent back with it and a letter saying it met their standards.
My standards just have a bit less tolerance I guess. Really would like to get a gunsmith to check the crown and maybe smooth it out if he finds anything.
My standards just have a bit less tolerance I guess. Really would like to get a gunsmith to check the crown and maybe smooth it out if he finds anything.
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I'm a little surprised S&W didn't do anything to the gun and feel that 4"-5" groups are fine at (I would guess 25 yds).
After what I went through with my 929 I firmly believe the bullet diameter of .356 is simply to small for the 929 I have.
If I were you I'd either think about casting your own bullets for control over the dia. size or search for a cast or coated bullet in .356, .357 & .358. *I wouldn't use oversized jacketed bullets.*
I've seen some posts mentioning the crown and I can only speak to my experience and that is the bullet diameter was the answer..
The crowns on the 929 are not pretty but it just wasn't the problem with mine. I'm not saying it wouldn't help but in my case I saw a big improvement running bullets sized for .357 but still had more leading than I wanted. After getting my nerve up I starting casting from an RCBS 38/357 140 gr Cowboy mold and sizing at .357 then moved up to .358.
The leading is almost completely gone now and it shoots!!!!! Now this is only my experience but this is what turned the worst shooting gun I own into one of my best!!!! I hope this helps you and anyone else having the same issues.
Load on the light side and move up slowly. I just run the cap on the end of the muzzle, it stays a lot cleaned.
After what I went through with my 929 I firmly believe the bullet diameter of .356 is simply to small for the 929 I have.
If I were you I'd either think about casting your own bullets for control over the dia. size or search for a cast or coated bullet in .356, .357 & .358. *I wouldn't use oversized jacketed bullets.*
I've seen some posts mentioning the crown and I can only speak to my experience and that is the bullet diameter was the answer..
The crowns on the 929 are not pretty but it just wasn't the problem with mine. I'm not saying it wouldn't help but in my case I saw a big improvement running bullets sized for .357 but still had more leading than I wanted. After getting my nerve up I starting casting from an RCBS 38/357 140 gr Cowboy mold and sizing at .357 then moved up to .358.
The leading is almost completely gone now and it shoots!!!!! Now this is only my experience but this is what turned the worst shooting gun I own into one of my best!!!! I hope this helps you and anyone else having the same issues.
Load on the light side and move up slowly. I just run the cap on the end of the muzzle, it stays a lot cleaned.
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