9mm shield shoots to the left

NCavi8tor said:
I've always used the acronym F.O.R.S. when adjusting iron sights. Front Opposite, Rear Same for moving the POI. This has worked for me for 35 years. Your adjustment has me scratching my almost bald head!

NC
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and that is what i did i was shooting left and the rear sight was
not centered moved rear sight left , let front sight stay where it was , which was centered on the slide.
I see where you got confused its what i said about a rifle , didn't finish my thought in print , just in my head .... LOL
 
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woolyt2 said:
and that is what i did i was shooting left and the rear sight was
not centered moved rear sight left , let front sight stay where it was , which was centered on the slide.
I see where you got confused its what i said about a rifle , didn't finish my thought in print , just in my head .... LOL
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OK, either we are having the worst communication I've seen in a long time, you really had a very bad flinch (which somehow got fixed) or your gun is broken.

If the gun is hitting to the left, moving the rear sight to the left will only make it worse. The rear sight must be moved right to move the point of impact right.
 
This picture is a little crude, but it explains the issue with sight movement:
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The red arrow indicates line of sight. The green arrow is the bullet path.

If the sights are properly aligned, the bullets will go to the center of the target as we see in the first pic. If the rear sight is off to the right, the bullet (green arrow) will impact to the right of the target, middle pic. If the rear sight is off to the left, the bullets will impact to the left of the target, right pic.

So, if the bullets are impacting to the left and the rear sight is moved to the left, the bullets will only impact further left.
 
I have always felt if the sights were right on POA and you were shooting good that you should have about as many shots high as you have low and right as you have left. Even if they are just a 1/4" high, low, right or left. If there are 3 dead center and two a 1/2 lower I messed up those two shots. A lot of times as soon as the gun goes off I know I pulled the shot and now where it hit with out looking. You should be able to see your sight picture all the way through recoil. Don
 
Let's see whether we can get to three pages (80 responses) without anyone's answering the OP. While the gentle suggestions to try a rest are not unwarranted, the only replies that came close to answering were the suggestion to sell the gun and the comment about the locking block.

I don't have a Shield, don't know the spacing between sights, and don't know what the gun would look like after adjusting the sights. Seems to me that you have a three-way choice:

Call S&W and see if they'll fix it.
Adjust the sights and have a gun that shoots.
Sell it.

I would still try a rest and a dummy or two before any of the above.
 
Rastoff said:
This picture is a little crude, but it explains the issue with sight movement:
Sight%20Alignment_zpsi8xhggwl.png

The red arrow indicates line of sight. The green arrow is the bullet path.

If the sights are properly aligned, the bullets will go to the center of the target as we see in the first pic. If the rear sight is off to the right, the bullet (green arrow) will impact to the right of the target, middle pic. If the rear sight is off to the left, the bullets will impact to the left of the target, right pic.

So, if the bullets are impacting to the left and the rear sight is moved to the left, the bullets will only impact further left.
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nice pic but you need to look at it again sight pic is green and projectile is red
 
I'd agree to have someone else shoot it first, or try it from a rest. I'm "combat accurate" with my Shield, but I can't reliably hit 6" plates from 20 yards with it yet. I just haven't practiced enough. I was at my buddy's house shooting steel a number of months ago. I was 50% or less with the Shield at that distance...still working on technique. Another friend of his rides up on his Harley. He's never shot a Shield, so I let him try mine, a Shield 9. He empties an entire magazine into one of the plates. Slow shooting, of course, but not a single miss.

So, yeah...my gun's accurate. I need to work on me!
 
Sure if you are pulling the shot 2 inches right at 7 yards you can make up for that by adjusting the rear sight. At 7yds you are right on but closer you are to the right and farther away you are left again. Fix your trigger pull making sure it is straight back. The Shield is a light gun and it is very easy to move the muzzle to the left when the trigger breaks.
 
critterhorse said:
My new 9mm shield shoots to the left.
FACTS: I am an expericed shooter, retired Deputy Sheriff, I'm good enough to take myself out of the problem. I know how to make corrections to the sights.

What I'm asking is has anybody else experience out of the box same problems and how did they fix it. Took the weapon out and shot about 60 rounds. Grouped good but about 3 inches left of target at only 7 yards. The front and rear sights are aligned centered on the slide. YES I can move the front post but then it won't look right. Is this normal for it to be this far off at this close range. Is this just the way it is with a very short barred gun. Any comments would be a plus. Thanks to anyone who has some information
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My shield in 9mm also shoots a bit to the left. At 20 yards I can hold about 5" groups but the center of group is a little left, like about 2" left.
 
woolyt2 said:
and that is what i did i was shooting left and the rear sight was
not centered moved rear sight left , let front sight stay where it was , which was centered on the slide.
I see where you got confused its what i said about a rifle , didn't finish my thought in print , just in my head .... LOL
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Hence my subtle hint.....you moved it the WRONG way!!

NC
 
@Smith Wesson: That's a nice graphic. While the finger placement is not a Universal application with all pistols, it does illustrate the fix.

Using Mid Pad works for me with my Glock and XDM Double-Stacks, to achieve a center ring hit, but using the same Mid Pad application with my Shield, causes my shots to go Left. In order for ME to achieve a straight rearward Trigger pull, I (and many others here) need to utilize the 1st knuckle crease.

Using your graphic, this DOES translates out...
If the New Shield Owner is using the Mid Pad and hitting Left, moving to the 1st knuckle crease will put things right... right to the center, that is. ;)
 
More likely then not its do to trigger travel .. while squeezing the trigger you are unconsciously moving the gun left or low and left for some. Try dry firing while using your free hand index and thumb u cuping the barrel(holding it like you would a shotgun). as you squeeze the trigger you will notice the gun ever so slightly moving towards your thumb This could be fixed with retraining. .. keep in mind the shield and other small guns was made for close work. . They say a trigger kit will greatly improve this. Personally i could think of better things to do with 150$... .. i stand corrected, finger tip pad placement.. is not as important as holding the weapon completely still bending only that second knuckle. Keeping the first knuckle and wrist from moving, Master this with a good sight picture.

I get the left and low left when im not taking my time and squeezing slow with firm grip. Even at 20ft with left and low left placement you still hiting plenty body... this is why i train with aiming for mid upper body
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Rastoff said:
And with a blind fold.

Are you serious? The longest shot is from 5 yards? All from the ready? Any time pressure? Send me the course of fire. I will indeed video myself shooting it blindfolded. What have I got to lose? I'm not proud.
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Oklahoma course of fire:
1. Unlimited practice shots.
2. Final Course for Qualification:
Total 20 rounds
B-27 target (or TQ type)

3 yard line: 2 strings from the ready, 5 rounds each string, 10 sec time limit per string
5 yards line: 2 strings from the ready, 5 rounds each string, 15 sec time limit per string

Scoring: None specified by law. Most instructors count any hit on target.
 
It totally amazes me I shoot at a indoor range almost daily and glance at other shooters targets. Most have them at 3 or 5 yards and a lot of shooters have a hard time hitting a dinner paper plate at those distances. I have seen them hitting the ceiling tile the floor and the side walls. The manager assigns them a couple lanes over from me when I have my chrono rolled out to 10 feet. Don
 
Great thread started by a person who very likely was a troll. He posted a grand total of once, and has not been back. Either he was a troll, or he was shooting so far to the left, he accidentally shot himself.
 
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