A bill to remove supressors from the NFA

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personally I think it's a noble effort and if it passed i'd buy 1 or 2 for myself.
but with many people and politicians considering suppressors as a gangster item, thanks to hollywood, I don't think there would be enough support for it to pass.


I hope i'm wrong ;)

plus the government likes to collect their tax of $200. per.
 
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I'd pay the price of admission to the Feds if only NY State would allow them.

Not in my lifetime.
 
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would that law over ride state laws outlawing them in your state .. Illinois and other states don't now allow them ..
 
I've got two for shooting my .22s. They're great. Been looking at getting a 30 caliber can for my .308. Hope the bill passes.

I wonder how much objection there will be based on suppressor use defeating gunshot sensor technology?
 
As it is right now cans are expensive, but I'm afraid if they become easier to buy that the price will go up because everyone will want one and they should sell well.
 
Suppressors only work on revolvers in the movies... So my Model 48 will still be just as loud as ever. (Fired some suppressed sub guns in the day, but I probably wouldn't spend a bunch of money should the legislation pass, however, anything to bug the gun grabbers is a good thing.)
 
rwsmith said:
....actually use silencers in crimes??
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They don't. But gun-grabbers can spin that to argue it's proof that the NFA tax stamp process is working as designed. Just like machine guns are rarely ever used crime.

Gun owners need to get away from rationalizing if infringing on that which is Constitutionally forbidden to infringe upon may or may not have desireable side effects. Doesn't matter. Shall not be infringed.
 
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As it is right now cans are expensive, but I'm afraid if they become easier to buy that the price will go up because everyone will want one and they should sell well.
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If there was greater demand because of being non NFA, more companies would produce them and I firmly believe the prices would drop. Plus, the companies now making them have to make profits form low volume sales. If they could sell 10 times as many they could make more money with less mark up.

Lets say it cost $50 to make one for a 22. You sell 1000 for $200. 1000 x $150= $150,000. Or you sell 10,000 at $150
10,000x$100= $1,000,000.

With a good CNC setup they would be easy to produce in volume. Even a small shop with a under $100,000 machine producing enough parts to assemble an average of just 30 a day with a net of $50 per unit would keep a family well fed. The actual material cost are low, and with carbide or ceramic cutters in a coolant flooded machine the tooling cost wouldn't be bad either. Small shop space, shipping, and receiving cost would be low and payments on the machine. Say a $1500 a week. Buy the tubing bulk cut and thread the ends. Produce end caps one day and baffles the rest of the week. Hey, I might even do it. LOL

I have seriously been thinking of making a suppressor, I have the paper work, the $200 isn't really an issue but does kind of bug me, but then there is also probably the long wait of up to 6 mths. I think I am going to just wait and see how this shakes out. My BIL has a sporting goods store and stocks them. Says he would sell way more if it wasn't for the NFA hassle and he even has a setup that kicks out the paper work for a buyer.
 
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It's the wait and hassle that kills suppressors, SRBs, SBS's, and whatnot. I don't worry about passing any background check, or even the government knowing what I own. The hassle of filling out the stuff, waiting, calling to see what's up, wondering if it was done right, keeping documentation safe and available, and the questions of "is this legal" here or there or if I move or travel, etc... OOOPS! - you're a felon now! (or at least you're out a pile of cash and time proving to a court "I didn't do it")
It's all manageable stuff, and many people do it, but I have better things to do and don't need to time suck or headaches. Remove all that and I'd grab one just for giggles.
 
We may want to be careful what we wish for.
Suppressors have been legalized here in Iowa and they are showing up more and more at gunshows. Have you seen how big those things are? Looking at all the choices and attachment systems, all of a sudden I had a horrible thought. What if the government decided, in the name of keeping from damaging our hearing (read government healthcare), they would require ALL GUNS to have suppressors installed. All hunting rifles, shotguns, pistols, revolvers or anything that could be shot anytime ammunition was loaded in them, no grandfather clauses either! Costs for consumers would go thru the roof and gun control advocates would be dancing in the streets. Law enforcement would be exempt of course.
I am old enough that I will never see any thing like this but our grandchildren might have battles like these for their freedoms.
Just my thoughts for today. Now back to reloading.
Mike
 
Not buying it, Mike. Government already thinks it has absolute power.

But just in case you are right - one should never underestimate governments' stupidity - it would make sense not to take the easy route and claim that ending the ban on silencers is for safety. It, and other NFA restrictions, should be eliminated because they accomplish nothing. They are gratuitous restrictions on freedom.
 
Would there be restrictions on importing silencers from overseas? I would sure like to own a Vaime silencer from Finland.
 
Would love to see this or any other bill go through removing suppressors from NFA list. No earthly reason they should be on there in the first place, but like everything else related to governmental bureaucracy, once it's on the books, it stays there indefinitely.
 
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