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KRAMER OWB SCABBARD IN HORSEHIDE. Pricey............ but the best damned holster I've ever owned for my M60 and my Model 65
A good solid pancake holster for a 2 1/2" model 19
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I know the OP stated that he had tried Galco and was less than satisfied, and I too do not believe that Galco is exactly the top of the heap. However, since I recently put away the 1911s and dusted off the revolvers for daily carry, I have been utilizing the Galco Combat Master exclusively to carry my S&W snubs. I have one for a J, one for a K, and one for a N, all in the 2 1/2" variety. The primary reasons I went with Galco was due to instantaneous availability, decent (although not premium) quality, and reasonable price (if you buy online (Amazon) as MSRP are a little absurd).
BobR1,
Thanks for all your information! I have checked out Ray's site and am impressed with what i've seen. Two questions for you. I noticed that you did not have any of your holsters lined, just not needed or are the guns gripped firmly enough for retention without it? You mentioned a hammer shield, could you explain your need and does it impeed the draw in any way. I didn't notice one on any of the pictures the other fellows have shown. Thanks for all the information and am looking foreward to your replys to my questions.
Thanks to all the members who showed their holsters!! It certainly helps!! I will be ordering one for my 2 1/2" 19 once I have a few more questions sorted out. Jim.
Thanks for all your information! I have checked out Ray's site and am impressed with what i've seen. Two questions for you. I noticed that you did not have any of your holsters lined, just not needed or are the guns gripped firmly enough for retention without it? You mentioned a hammer shield, could you explain your need and does it impeed the draw in any way. I didn't notice one on any of the pictures the other fellows have shown. Thanks for all the information and am looking foreward to your replys to my questions.
Thanks to all the members who showed their holsters!! It certainly helps!! I will be ordering one for my 2 1/2" 19 once I have a few more questions sorted out. Jim.
Cooter Brown
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I have one of Ray's holsters I got from a member here. It's a full flap holster. It's lined with a buttery soft leather. Nice construction and quality materials.
For the money, I don't think you're gonna find a better fitted and finished holster.
My future holster needs will be met by Lobo.
For the money, I don't think you're gonna find a better fitted and finished holster.
My future holster needs will be met by Lobo.
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BobR1
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Back in the day (1970's) I bought Bianchi holsters, and got almost every one lined. I have picked up some used ones over the years that were not lined. I decided that a lined holster was not a have to have option, especially with SS guns.
With your Blued 19, a lined holster might not be a bad addition. I would e-mail Ray and ask for his opinion.
The Inner Hammer Shield Option:
It is an extension of the holster on the body side that extends up to the approximate top of the hammer.
It has multiple functions.
When you wear your shirt tunked in with a cover garment like a jackshirt, windbreaker, etc it keeps the shirt from getting tucked in the holster along with the gun when reholstering.
It will do the same thing with your Tee Shirt with an untucked outer shirt.
Next it will help to keep oil and carbon off your shirt from contact with your handgun.
Last it will put a layer of leather between sweat and the gun protecting the gun a little better.
For $5 it is a good addition to your carry holster.
Enhanced Pancake vs Model 1 Pancake:
The Model 1 is a conventional Pancake with belt slots in the wings for your belt. Taking the holster off you take the belt out of the belt loops infront of the holster. Unthread it from the front holster slot, then pull the holster back and remove the belt from the belt loop behind the holster. Then slide the holster off the belt.
With the Enhanced Pancake you have Belt Tunnels. This holster does look sharp. When removing this holster I slide the holster back and forth as I pull the belt out of the belt loops and belt tunnels on the holster from the off side. After I worked this method out, getting the holster off the belt was not a big issue, just different than getting a belt slot holster off.
The Model 1 is handier if you are shooting a match with multiple revolvers, where you change holsters several times during the day.
Barrel Length: I have found that I can carry up to a 3" barrel revolver in the Lobo Pancake carried at 4 O'Clock and still get my billfold out of my right back pocket with no problem. When I carry my 4" 610 or 64 I have found that I need to carry my billfold in a different pocket. Another option would be carrying a 4" at 3 O'Clock, and going for your billfold by lifting your cover garment up at your billfold location, instead of sweeping your cover garment open in the case of a jackshirt.
I just made a run to town. I am carrying my Smith & Wesson 310 Night Guard in the Lobo Enhanced Pancake with a tucked in Tee Shirt, and an untucked Woolrich Elite 4 Pocket Discrete Carry shirt over it. I am carrying the 310 at 4 O'Clock strong side. I have 1 spare reload in a California Competition Moon Clip Carrier infront of the holster. For a light jacket I took along my Carhartt Jackshirt which has a nice long tail in Moss Green. Just in case I needed a jacket, which I did not.
I hope this information was of some help.
Bob
With your Blued 19, a lined holster might not be a bad addition. I would e-mail Ray and ask for his opinion.
The Inner Hammer Shield Option:
It is an extension of the holster on the body side that extends up to the approximate top of the hammer.
It has multiple functions.
When you wear your shirt tunked in with a cover garment like a jackshirt, windbreaker, etc it keeps the shirt from getting tucked in the holster along with the gun when reholstering.
It will do the same thing with your Tee Shirt with an untucked outer shirt.
Next it will help to keep oil and carbon off your shirt from contact with your handgun.
Last it will put a layer of leather between sweat and the gun protecting the gun a little better.
For $5 it is a good addition to your carry holster.
Enhanced Pancake vs Model 1 Pancake:
The Model 1 is a conventional Pancake with belt slots in the wings for your belt. Taking the holster off you take the belt out of the belt loops infront of the holster. Unthread it from the front holster slot, then pull the holster back and remove the belt from the belt loop behind the holster. Then slide the holster off the belt.
With the Enhanced Pancake you have Belt Tunnels. This holster does look sharp. When removing this holster I slide the holster back and forth as I pull the belt out of the belt loops and belt tunnels on the holster from the off side. After I worked this method out, getting the holster off the belt was not a big issue, just different than getting a belt slot holster off.
The Model 1 is handier if you are shooting a match with multiple revolvers, where you change holsters several times during the day.
Barrel Length: I have found that I can carry up to a 3" barrel revolver in the Lobo Pancake carried at 4 O'Clock and still get my billfold out of my right back pocket with no problem. When I carry my 4" 610 or 64 I have found that I need to carry my billfold in a different pocket. Another option would be carrying a 4" at 3 O'Clock, and going for your billfold by lifting your cover garment up at your billfold location, instead of sweeping your cover garment open in the case of a jackshirt.
I just made a run to town. I am carrying my Smith & Wesson 310 Night Guard in the Lobo Enhanced Pancake with a tucked in Tee Shirt, and an untucked Woolrich Elite 4 Pocket Discrete Carry shirt over it. I am carrying the 310 at 4 O'Clock strong side. I have 1 spare reload in a California Competition Moon Clip Carrier infront of the holster. For a light jacket I took along my Carhartt Jackshirt which has a nice long tail in Moss Green. Just in case I needed a jacket, which I did not.
I hope this information was of some help.
Bob
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nawilson
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Simply Rugged Sourdough... I am using one IWB with an N-frame right now, I think... let me check... yep. It is so comfortable I can easily forget I am wearing it.
OFT II
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If you can find one, get an original Roy Baker Pancake. That's the one that started the pancake holster fad.
BobR1
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Looks like I will need to order 2 holsters from Lobo shortly. I was still wanting one for my 4" 617.
I did a little swapping today, and I now have a 66 No Dash 2-1/2" RB that needs leather. I may have to train this 66 for belt carry. Looking at the overall condition and factory grips. It has never been carried in a holster. I will break it in shortly.
Bob
I did a little swapping today, and I now have a 66 No Dash 2-1/2" RB that needs leather. I may have to train this 66 for belt carry. Looking at the overall condition and factory grips. It has never been carried in a holster. I will break it in shortly.
Bob
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I see Lobo does thumb breaks too, which I need for some carry.
Gentlemen,
Yesterday I sent Ray of Lobo an e-mail and an order for the Enhanced Pancake holsted for my 2 1/2" 19. Today i'll get some funds off to him. His work(thanks to your great pictures), and ease of transactions were great selling points. I have no doubt i'll be pleased with his work. Thanks for all your help fellows. I'll post my thoughts when my new rig arrives. Jim.
Yesterday I sent Ray of Lobo an e-mail and an order for the Enhanced Pancake holsted for my 2 1/2" 19. Today i'll get some funds off to him. His work(thanks to your great pictures), and ease of transactions were great selling points. I have no doubt i'll be pleased with his work. Thanks for all your help fellows. I'll post my thoughts when my new rig arrives. Jim.
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