A K22 with a LERK and a K32 with a PERK

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In the last few months, I was fortunate enough to find the below K22 and K32. I bought them separately and I feel pretty fortunate to have located respectable examples of both :D

The K22 was pointed out to me by a helpful forum member. He had one already so he kind enough to show it to me. It is a LERK (Large Ejector Rod Knob) gun, with SN of K3641. Grips number and box numbers. The gun has some edge wear, with some muzzle wear, esp. on the left side but it is in still in respectable condition. I knew eventually I would find one because when you think about it, how many people outside of S&W collectors really know the ins and outs of early post war K22s or S&Ws in general?

I still remember first reading about these post-war transitional / LERK K22s. Of course, technically, they are not post war transitional in the way the other models are because they did have the then new short action (first on K22s in 1940). I remember vaguely first reading about them on the forum, and then finally understanding what they were, my thoughts back then were basically like this: :p

They paid that much for a K22? Looks just like any other K22 to me! What's so special? Oh, it's "transitional" they said? What does that mean? They have a LERK? What is that? Oh, it's the "beehive" (as I called it) ejector knob and they have "MADE IN USA" so those 2 features make it worth that much more? Really? That's a little crazy! Well look at that: so and so has K500, but someone else K350, and this guy has K200, and lower – I guess that's kind of cool…but I just want a damn Registered Magnum! I don't need to have every variety of post war K22. I have a K22/40...these post war variations don't do much for me…maybe someday will luck into one…I guess finding one would be kind of cool…….

(years pass)………..

After I got more and more into 5 screw S&Ws, I found out exactly what they were, and I started getting other "post war transitional" revolvers as well – Heavy Duty, 38 Outdoorsman, 44 Military, and a transitional Kit gun. Although I hoped to find each transitional model, I knew that I would need some luck to get some of the others. However, I always remained optimistic I would land a K22 "LERK" gun because as I said, I don't believe many people outside of the S&W collecting circles know or understand the concept.

Without further ado, here is my first LERK K22 – with less than 5,000 made, I am pleased to finally be a part of the club…:D

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I was pleased when the seller verified the box matched.

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Even though the box was empty except for some unmarked packing paper, thankfully I have one of the scarce, correct nickel knurled SATs...

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Here it is with everything except the helpful hints brochure...

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Here is the LERK K22, K3641, with my other boxed K22, K51XXX. Note the differences between the two. The top gun has the following features: LERK knob, "one line" MADE IN USA address and SN under K5000 (the approx. line in the sand for LERK K22s). However, both do have the narrow rib, which is not commonly found after K75000.

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Here is a K22 family photo. Upper left, K22 Outdoorsman shipped May 1931 SN 633XXX, K22/40 May 1940 SN 686XXX, next is gun of this thread K3641 and at bottom is K51XXX. The gun which is pointed left might be the most special of the group...it is a 1953 gun, factory refinished, later grips, later TH and TT BUT it was my grandfather's. It was my paternal grandfather who was an avid shooter and hunter, who was responsible for my dad's interest in guns, and subsequently my own.

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My new (old) K22 will go great with my other early post war S&Ws…

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Who would think such a small knob could be a source of such angst and anxiety among grown men ;)

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This K32 was discovered by another local collector. I knew about it for some time, but the previous owner was never quite sure what he wanted to do with it. The ironic thing is that he is a WWI and WWII vet bring back pistol collector, yet somehow landed a pretty scarce S&W. I suppose things like that happen all the time but what are the odds? Months after he got it, he offered to me, and we made a deal on it. The "PERK" of this K32, (I mentioned in the title of this thread) is that its a narrow rib gun. SN – K67XXX. Despite how common the 5 screw K32s are compared to later 4 screw K32 and model marked 16 variations, the narrow rib variety (of the 5 screw variation) is a somewhat scarce variation of what is a scarce model in all forms. The grips number to the gun. It has some wear, most notably on the cylinder and some muzzle wear but she's honest, and my first K32 – I can worry about upgrading later. The spots on the cylinder are all smooth at least. The owner before me bought one of the blue corner boxes which were assembled years later after the gold boxes were discontinued.

Here is my first K32 of hopefully many! :p

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The gun looks good with the box. I wish it came with the original box, but alas, I could not be so lucky...

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Here is a shot of the blue corners of this box. These blue corner gold K32 boxes are still plentiful. The original gold corner boxes are pretty hard to find today, as are the revolvers themselves.

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Here are a few scarce K frame target revolvers from my collection. Top is a K22/40, 1 of 1067, middle is the K32, 1 of approx. 3600 (total post war production) and bottom is a 1905 4th 32-20 M&P target which shipped in 1924. I am not sure how many 32-20 M&P targets were actually made, but they are pretty scarce today. If I had to guess their production, I would think much less than 10K, perhaps less than 5K.

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I feel like its been a while since I posted a thread, but my love for S&Ws and the quest for more endures...

Same as it ever was...
look where my hand was
Time isn't holding up...
Time is an asterisk...
Same as it ever was...


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What??? No K38??? I have 2, I will trade 1 for your K32.:D It will break my heart but I will help you out!!:rolleyes:
 
I observed from my collection, last K-22 narrow rib, K206XXX. First K-22 wide rib, K253XXX.

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Jim:

WHAT A GREAT THREAD!!! Beautiful guns, great descriptions and a wonderful collection of classic S&W early post war guns (plus the 22/40).:)

Thanks for taking the time to share,
 
Sweet collection !

Great thing about K-22's (And S&W's in general) is they kept changing little things so depending on how fine you have the microscope set you begin to notice a 1947 shipped K-22 is a liiiittle different than a 1948 and the 1948 is a little different than a 1949 ,

FF up the chain and the K-22 from 1947 has a different finish, stocks, rollstamps, sites, medallions than a 5 screw K-22 from 1955....Love it !
 
This thread has some great pistols. Years ago I bought a K32 in hopes that I would then be able to find a K22 and K38 of the same vintage to go with it. Long story short: I gave up on the project and found it easier to pursue TLs and RMs, which I have done with some success. Thus I have a weak spot in my knowledge here. Could one of you define xERK where x=L or P? I would appreciate it. I have seen these terms on the forum for over a year, and I remain uninformed. Thanks for bringing me up to speed.
 
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While mine pale in comparison, I have been able to secure a K22 from the late 40s and a K32 from 1955 and a K38 from 1954...the latter two I didn't even know I wanted until I read threads like these. Thank you.
 
This thread has some great pistols. Years ago I bought a K32 in hopes that I would then be able to find a K22 and K38 of the same vintage to go with it. Long story short: I gave up on the project and found it easier to pursue TLs and RMs, which I have done with some success. Thus I have a weak spot in my knowledge here. Could one of you define xERK where x=L or P? I would appreciate it. I have seen these terms on the forum for over a year, and I remain uninformed. Thanks for bringing me up to speed.

LERK- Large Extractor Rod Knob
PERK-A term made up by the OP.
 
Thanks for the help...

LERK- Large Extractor Rod Knob
PERK-A term made up by the OP.
I appreciate getting new knowledge from this and the related DCWilson thread. Based on these threads, I will summarize some useful acronyms:

LERK = (as we all know) Large Extractor Rod Knob
SERK = Small Extractor Rod Knob
MERK = Mushroom Extractor Rod Knob
PERK = (to be defined)
JERK = (couldn't resist this one) Person not knowing what a LERK, SERK, and MERK are
 
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LERK- Large Extractor Rod Knob
PERK-A term made up by the OP.

According to Mr. Merriam-Webster, I did not make up the term "PERK" and I did use it as defined: (noun) a good thing that you have or get because of your situation. The perk of the K32 is that its the uncommon narrow rib variety.

As stated in my thread:

The "PERK" of this K32, (I mentioned in the title of this thread) is that its a narrow rib gun.

"PERK" is not a collector term in relation to S&Ws and is NOT an acronym. I suppose we could agree that a "perk" to owning S&Ws is that we all own the thoroughbread of revolvers by owning S&Ws :) I was using the term for its basic meaning, no more, no less.

Looks like I should have used my alternate title for the read "Found a K22 LERKing in the bushes, and a K32 as well." Me thinks that title would have caused less confusion! :p However, I didn't like that thread title because I didn't want to imply that I had conjured up a K32 LERK only to dismay tons of forum members when they see the K32 is not a LERK ;)
 
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I am not actually those terms, but that would imply trying to first appropriately get to know someone rather than haphazardly throwing adjectives out to describe someone that you dont know at all.

Who knew that you really can't get to know someone on an online forum? Who woulda thunk people are more complex than that? Common sense isnt so common, is it?
 
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Jim,

Although I don't know you personally and we live on the other side of the Mason-Dixon Line from each other, I will be happy to help you extricate yourself from all of this by letting you send that old narrow rib K-32 to me and eliminating the reason for all this harassment. It would go just right with my narrow rib K-22 and K-38 and could hide out safely there to avoid all the drama. Don't thank me, Jim... I've read enough of your writing on this forum to feel like we are close, and besides, I'm just a nice kinda guy. Please PM me for shipping instructions! (ROTFLMAO)

Regards,
Froggie
 
Gorings S&W--
Thanks for this interesting information and of course the beautiful pictures.
Mostly thanks to you Grandfather and Dad for passing on this interest in guns.
I can thank my Dad also, but he never had more then 4 guns. I have more then 4 S&W Classic pistols. My three Grandsons love this hobby, and have several guns I have given to them now.
This whole site just keeps on giving good information to us all.
What a wonderful resource. God Bless America, For our liberty to enjoy this hobby.
 
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My son is 15 an although he enjoys hunting and shooting and has some appreciation for the effort I've put into my collection, I hope that someday he will appreciate the nuances of collecting that you have so generously put forth in your post! Thanks for sharing, I know it takes a lot of time and effort to post such wonderful pics and include the history as well. It's what makes this forum so great!
 
Yours may be rare, but when people are selling, they all seem to be rare.
What are NERK and SHLERK?
 
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