A minor mystery for Team 3rd Gen...

[TTSH]

... to solve for me. What the heck are these strange collars and why did I find them on these three 6900-series magazines I found?

The gun shop guy said they must be space fillers for using 6900-series magazines in a shorter gripped gun... but there are no shorter gripped 3rd Gens that could use such a thing. Help! Anybody run into these before?

p.s., Yes, I bought the mags anyway.

 

[jtj5002]

Maybe they are for using 59xx mags in 69xx and someone just got really confused

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[TTSH]

Maybe they are for using 59xx mags in 69xx and someone just got really confused.

Well, I suppose it's worth checking out. You never know.

Be right back...

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I'm back. Sadly, no cigar. Very close, but the back ridge of the mystery thing prevents the 5900-series magazine from seating in a 6900-series gun. Still, I think you are on to something. It must be a magazine spacer. It has to be a magazine spacer! The question is... for what? And why were they on these 6900-series magazines?

 

[jsbethel]

I would have guessed PGS Grip+2 but something doesn't look quite right about them.

 

[TTSH]

I would have guessed PGS Grip+2 but something doesn't look quite right about them.

Yeah, but the same idea though I'm betting... but apparently for some other gun.

 

[jtj5002]

Well, I suppose it's worth checking out. You never know.

Be right back...

++++++++++

I'm back. Sadly, no cigar. Very close, but the back ridge of the mystery thing prevents the 5900-series magazine from seating in a 6900-series gun. Still, I think you are on to something. It must be a magazine spacer. It has to be a magazine spacer! The question is... for what? And why were they on these 6900-series magazines?

I'm thinking they are for completely different guns/mags and someone got really extra confused haha.

 

[TTSH]

I'm thinking they are for completely different guns/mags and someone got really extra confused haha.

It would seem that way. But this was no customer or kiddie mischief. These were all in individual packages, each with a magazine and a mystery spacer on it. Knowing that shop, they came to the shop that way... and, by God, they were going to sell them that way!

So now I have a new purpose in life... a new quest: Finding out what mags & gun these fit and, obviously, adding one to the collection so I can use these little thingies I inadvertantly ended up with.

 

[K Frame Keith]

My PC Shorty forty came with a 69 length magazine and an 11 round 4006 length magazine with a spacer. Probably the same idea.

 

[model3sw]

My PC Shorty forty came with a 69 length magazine and an 11 round 4006 length magazine with a spacer. Probably the same idea.

Still looking for a .357 Sig barrel for my (once fired when new in 1994) Shorty 40. :: sigh ::

 

[TTSH]

My PC Shorty forty came with a 69 length magazine and an 11 round 4006 length magazine with a spacer. Probably the same idea.

I think that lip on the back of the thingies would do the same thing to a 4006 magazine as it does to the 5906 magazine... but I'll see if it works. I should be able to use my 4013TSW for that test.

 

[Maddog 521]

There are thingy's like that for 7 round mags used in the Springfield XDs 45. Wide enough to cover the difference between 5 and 7 round mags. Do they have the S&W logo on them?

 

[Heymatt]

Was there a part number on the package they came in?

 

[TTSH]

There are thingy's like that for 7 round mags used in the Springfield XDs 45. Wide enough to cover the difference between 5 and 7 round mags. Do they have the S&W logo on them?

Sadly, no Logo or markings of any kind. That would have been a very helpful clue! Time to start Googling magazine spacers I guess and see if I can match them up to some ones on the 'Net.

 

[TTSH]

Was there a part number on the package they came in?

Nope. Nothing. This particular shop takes in used and surplus magazines, packages and prices them, and then hangs them up on a display rack. Sometimes they write what they fit and sometimes they don't. In this case, no markings. I just recognized them and scooped them up just as you see them.

 

[Heymatt]

Best guess from my armchair is, they're spacer for a 5900 series magazine but they didn't include the new floor plate that comes with them.

 

[tom 45]

Kel tec sleeve

Kel Tec makes a sleeve for the 69xx mags to be used in a p-11.
They also make one for the 59xx mags to work in the P-11.
I have some for the 59xx mags and they look very similar in construction (not size) to those.

 

[jbtrucker]

Kel Tec makes a sleeve for the 69xx mags to be used in a p-11.
They also make one for the 59xx mags to work in the P-11.
I have some for the 59xx mags and they look very similar in construction (not size) to those.

I think Tom 45 has the correct answer 12 or 15 5900 series spacer for Kel Tec

 

[elm_creek_smith]

They may be to adapt the Model 59 magazines to fit the KelTec P11. My daughter has a 59 mag with an adapter for her P11.

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[bigggbbruce]

... to solve for me. What the heck are these strange collars and why did I find them on these three 6900-series magazines I found?

TTSH.. just put them in your spare parts drawer and call it a day..

If you can't find a use for them today, you won't miss them tomorrow.

 

[TTSH]

Kel Tec makes a sleeve for the 69xx mags to be used in a p-11.
They also make one for the 59xx mags to work in the P-11.
I have some for the 59xx mags and they look very similar in construction (not size) to those.

Bingo!!! You got it!!! Thank you!

Now, I have to try to buy a P-11!

 

[TTSH]

I think Tom 45 has the correct answer 12 or 15 5900 series spacer for Kel Tec

They may be to adapt the Model 59 magazines to fit the KelTec P11. My daughter has a 59 mag with an adapter for her P11.

Yep! It appears the mystery is solved! Thank you!

 

[elm_creek_smith]

Bingo!!! You got it!!! Thank you!



Now, I have to try to buy a P-11!

At least you won't go broke buying one! I hate the trigger on my daughter's P11, but she doesn't seem to mind it. I have some M59 mags for my Model 469, now all I need are the adapters.

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[BlackTalonJHP]

Yes you'll have to buy a Kel Tec P11 and a Marlin Model 9 and a Daewoo DP-51.

 

[TTSH]

At least you won't go broke buying one! I hate the trigger on my daughter's P11, but she doesn't seem to mind it.

Yes you'll have to buy a Kel Tec P11 and a Marlin Model 9 and a Daewoo DP-51.

I guess I didn't know what kind of trouble I was getting into buying those mags!

And, of course, the P-11 is not on our MA approved handgun roster.

 

[elm_creek_smith]

I guess I didn't know what kind of trouble I was getting into buying those mags! [emoji14]



And, of course, the P-11 is not on our MA approved handgun roster.

That's a shame. My brother paid about $200.00 for my daughter's as a graduation present. It likes Winchester 115 gr Silvertips. Heavier ammo nosedives into the feed ramp.

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[TTSH]

That's a shame. My brother paid about $200.00 for my daughter's as a graduation present. It likes Winchester 115 gr Silvertips. Heavier ammo nosedives into the feed ramp.

Researching on-line, I see they have continued to go up in price. Funny since almost all plastic guns tend to go down in price over time. Very strange.

 

[Jeppo]

Researching on-line, I see they have continued to go up in price. Funny since almost all plastic guns tend to go down in price over time. Very strange.

Only going up in price 'cause you bought the magazines. Karma.

 

[TTSH]

Only going up in price 'cause you bought the magazines. Karma.

Story of my life Jep: buy high and sell low... and its corollary: what I have is going down in value and what I want is going up in value. Of course, I've been trying hard to reverse that by sticking with all-metal guns and avoiding plastic like the plague.

But the truth is I'll probably never own a Kel-Tec P-11 being here in MA, so if someone on the Team has a P-11 and needs these spacers, I'll be happy to pass them on. First refusal goes to Tom 45 for having solved the "what is it" mystery.

 

[Jeppo]

Oh yeah?

Story of my life Jep: buy high and sell low... and its corollary: what I have is going down in value and what I want is going up in value.

Perhaps it'll make you feel better if I recount my latest buy high/sell low gun transaction.

I bought a 915 a year or so ago and almost immediately regretted it, only because it had a rough life which was "corrected" by a previous owner with the same kind of enamel he'd probably been sniffing. A better example dropped into my lap the other day so I put the original 915 up for sale on a local board. I agonized over what to ask but decided I'd probably be satisfied if I came out whole, considering I'd never even bothered to shoot it.

The "I'll take it" PM arrived 2 minutes after I posted the listing and within an hour or so there were two more "Wish I'd seen this first" posts.

 

[tom 45]

Thanks for the offer but you shouldn't give up on the P-11.

I found one at Collector's a while back for $350 (pre ban).
It was stainless steel so I didn't want to shoot it too much, well don't you know a few months later they had another one.
I figured I'd buy the second one to shoot and keep the stainless one to carry. When I got there the second one was stainless steel also! Now I have 2 stainless steel P-11s.

Thanks again for the offer but, I'm all set.