Accidental hoarding

[ladyT]

First "there is no shortage", then "the demand is greater than the production capacity by several times...". HUH?????

Okay, I quit. I cannot follow that circular reasoning, so I will respectfully refrain from what others might consider a frivolous response. But in closing, I note that in the last two weeks you yourself have apparently accumulated 5700 rounds of 22LR and 22 Magnum, if my math is right. That compares quite favorably with the number from the original poster, and he considered himself to be hoarding, albeit accidentally, (He also stated he would quit buying....)

Hmmmm.....

Enjoy shooting your .22s. Others of us will just wait and hope, I guess.

Yes there is a shortage of 22lr. Yes the demand exceeds supply but that does not mean that 22lr is not available. Cheap 22lr is frankly hard to come by if not impossible to find but all one has to do is go to gunbot.net and they will find all of the 22lr that they could want but it does come with a higher price.

Find 22LR Ammo in stock at lowest prices | WikiArms AmmoEngine
4 pages of in stock 22lr

GunBot 22lr rimfire ammo

about 150 separate in stock listings of 22lr that is available for
purchase

Gunbroker has 24 pages of 22lr offered for sale. That's over 1100 individual listings of 22lr for sale.


The choice is the individuals. One can take their chances with a back order, one can stand in line and hope or one can go online and purchase what they want.

An individual can gamble with standing in line or waiting on a back order that may or may not show up. An individual though may go for the the sure thing which is to order from an online site but that comes at a higher price but that will be the individuals choice.

Now if the Iraq problem gets worse expect to see gasoline jump 50-75 cents a gallon by the end of the month and expect ammo prices to follow gasoline up in price especially .223/5.56, 9mm, 7.62 and other calibers. SO buy your ammo now because the geopolitical risks are coming home to roost and that means higher prices.

 

[ladyT]

Are you sure you are a lady? You do not live where I live, so keep this civil!

Here is what the committee has done over the last year.

1. We have always ordered our 22 ammo for the club through the CMP. We placed an order 6 months ago and were promised ammo by May 1st. They responded the end of April that due to HIGH demand, they cannot fill our order.

2. We have 3 stores that sell ammunition within 50 mile radius and 2 of them were monitored every week when the shipment comes in. Dunham's replied that they have received one bucket of 22 ammunition in the last 2 months, so they did not have any ammo! Walmart stops have also been fruitless. Their shipments are not weekly, so we can only rely on the employees to tell us when the best time to show up is, but never got one stinking box. The third option is a small gunshop and they told us not to even bother, since the owner has not seen a box for the last 3 months.

3. I and others have tried to buy online and have placed our names on various waitlists, but so far nothing has panned out there either.

4. We regularly attend gunshows, but I WILL NOT PAY $80 for a brick! These are the very people who contribute to the problem!

So, LadyT, do you have any other suggestions, or do you just like to post derogatory remarks skip out?

Find 22LR Ammo in stock at lowest prices | WikiArms AmmoEngine
4 pages of in stock 22lr

GunBot.net 22lr rimfire ammo

about 150 separate in stock listings of 22lr that is available for
purchase

Gunbroker has 24 pages of 22lr offered for sale. That's over 1100 individual listings of 22lr for sale.

It all comes down to price. If you are willing to pay you can have all the ammo you want. If not then you are going to do without. That is where you are at and everyone else to boot. A good situation, No. Yet that is the reality of the day and that is what everyone of us have to deal with.

 

[cyphertext]

To put a cap on my rant - our club has an annual youth fun shoot, plus a 4H Firearms Training Course this summer and have not been able to find any 22 ammo for the events. Over the years, the kids have shot a thousand rounds every year at each event, but this year it will be pellet guns.

Are these only 2 events? Am I reading this right that you have 2 events, needing 1000 rounds per event, for a total of 2000 rounds? And you can't find that? Or if you find it, you aren't willing to pay the asking price? Am I understanding correctly?

If so, sorry man, but that is only 4 bricks. Even at $.15 per round, which .22lr is readily available at that price, that's $300. That would be worth it to keep your programs running.

As far as other suggestions, since you are a member of a gun club, have you asked members to donate ammo for the events? I provided my son's Boy Scout troop 2000 rounds of CCI Blazer a month ago, and have already replaced 1500 of that back in my stash... it is out there, just gotta look for it. Cabelas.com is your friend. They have been running Norma USA TAC-22 fairly regularly for about $59 per brick. It is subsonic and a little expensive, but reviews state it is good ammo.

 

[coltle6920]

I am sorry, but I see what most will not discuss - a prime example of why many of us can not buy a single box of 22 ammo!! In the area that I live, I have been only been able to buy one brick in the last 2 years! I have stood in line many times, but am always beat out by gunshow sellers that want to sell me the $20 brick they just bought for $80! Why can they do this? Because of mass hoarding.

Hoarders are not considering the fact that many shooters can not but ammo for their use because others have 10,000+ rounds in their homes.

To put a cap on my rant - our club has an annual youth fun shoot, plus a 4H Firearms Training Course this summer and have not been able to find any 22 ammo for the events. Over the years, the kids have shot a thousand rounds every year at each event, but this year it will be pellet guns.

I admit I am a hoarder in the way that I have more than I will shoot in any one season.I just got off GunBot where the few places that showed 22LR under .10/rd were out of stock.The next best place was PalmettoStateArmory that had CCI standard velocity for $5.59/50rd so I bought 1000rds.Don't need it but bought it anyway from the comfort of my computer.Trying to score the cheapest price locally does nothing but negate the lower price by wasted time spent in line and gas.

If the ammo was strictly for yourself I'd say do what you want.You can tell the children that the bad hoarders like myself are responsible for them having a lousy summer.I wont lose any sleep over it. Suck it up and get the necessary ammo for this year and get over it.You can then concentrate on next year through fundraisers such as a bake sale or whatever.

If there wasn't so much bickering and name calling in this thread I was almost tempted to donate the ammo for a worthy cause.Instead I'm headed to BassPro tomorrow to get some more ammo cans for my hoard.

 

[Bionic_Man]

Well, look at it this way. 6k will certainly get you through "lean" periods like we're having now, especially if you shoot lots of .22 LR. You built your stores piecemeal instead of buying it all at once in a panic like some other people have.

It's also quite admirable that you've decided to show a little temperance now that you know how much you've amassed.

Thank CoMF, I'm up early at 0500 to take my daughter to zero period (glee club), rather than go straight to work I'd drop by Walmart. Maybe 3-6 times a month. I would not even buy the max 3 box ( 333 or 225 boxes vs. 500 bricks). Sometimes I'd buy .38, 12 ga., buckshot, or 30-06. My biggest score was at a Memorial Day sale at a gun range 1800 rounds of Federal $94. With my pick up a box here and there approach, I would have noticed 6000 rounds of 30-06 (I'm holding at 260 rounds), but I was surprised I have 6k of 22. So it is easy enough to get. I must mention I am from California. The state that will soon no longer have new 629 revolvers for sale. I picked up mine last day before it went off roster for MSRP. My focus is now on 44 mag ammo. BL, if a Californian can patiently and without intending find cheap 22, you can too.

 

[shakyshoot]

Saying "I can't get any 22 cause y'all hoarders have too much" is about like saying "I can't get any money because you have too much in the bank." There are certain skills that will get you money, and certain skills that will get you ammo. If you can't get ammo, you may need to improve those skills. I can't see any reason why someone who is allowed to have ammo shipped to their location should not have plenty, and at reasonable prices. If you're in one of those places where you have to buy from retail stores, well that a whole different thing. (But it can be done, with different skills)

 

[djt17]

Saying "I can't get any 22 cause y'all hoarders have too much" is about like saying "I can't get any money because you have too much in the bank." There are certain skills that will get you money, and certain skills that will get you ammo. If you can't get ammo, you may need to improve those skills. I can't see any reason why someone who is allowed to have ammo shipped to their location should not have plenty, and at reasonable prices. If you're in one of those places where you have to buy from retail stores, well that a whole different thing. (But it can be done, with different skills)

Indeed...I have been monitoring many online stores for months; I found a bucket (1400 rds) from Natchez for $0.07/rnd (incl. shipping). All it takes is patience... & a .38 special to shoot until you get .22!

 

[cyphertext]

Brought home 2 Federal 550 packs from Walmart this morning. Remington Golden Bullets were also available.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I've been shooting my Savage FV-SR (bolt action) more this year than my 15-22. Buying some bricks here and there when I see favorable prices (relatively speaking) and I've got back up to close to 20k rounds again. All online. I'm not buying much more until I start seeing case sales.

 

[jimmyj]

WOW !
When the few times .22 ammo is in stock-the limit is three (3) boxes per customer.
To stockpile thousand of rounds of .22 ammo would be a life time of traveling and waiting in line. That is a lots of gasoline and shoe leather.
I am impressed.
p.s. If any of you with a lot of .22 ammo is looking to adopt a son, Jimmy is available. I only eat a little, so I am cheap to keep.

 

[cyphertext]

WOW !
When the few times .22 ammo is in stock-the limit is three (3) boxes per customer.
To stockpile thousand of rounds of .22 ammo would be a life time of traveling and waiting in line. That is a lots of gasoline and shoe leather.
I am impressed.
p.s. If any of you with a lot of .22 ammo is looking to adopt a son, Jimmy is available. I only eat a little, so I am cheap to keep.

It really doesn't take much effort when the box holds 500 rounds or more. I've built up mine mostly from ordering from Cabelas.com earlier in the year, and it was limited to one box per customer.

 

[Krell1]

Been stopping by the Walmart a couple mornings a week, and standing in line for the different holiday ammo sales for the last year. So when I decided to spring clean my safes and take inventory, I discover I had over 6k rounds of 22LR. I typically have 1.5k or less on hand but some how I have gathered this little stock pile. Any other caliber I own, would have been obvious. My bad, I will shoot the stuff and stop buying more.

Back when I started shooting .22 as well as center fire in competition, it was considered normal to buy a case at a time. Cases then were 10,000 rounds. I started by trying various brands to see which one worked best from a bench rest then went on to buy by the case. It was not unusual to have 15 to 20 thousand rounds of various ammo on hand for all the guns we used. When you practice a couple times a week and go to various matches you need that amount to keep shooting. Since I've reached retirement, I find I can't compete but still have a tendency to "hoard".

 

[smithman 10]

I agree

I am sorry, but I see what most will not discuss - a prime example of why many of us can not buy a single box of 22 ammo!! In the area that I live, I have been only been able to buy one brick in the last 2 years! I have stood in line many times, but am always beat out by gunshow sellers that want to sell me the $20 brick they just bought for $80! Why can they do this? Because of mass hoarding.

Hoarders are not considering the fact that many shooters can not but ammo for their use because others have 10,000+ rounds in their homes.

To put a cap on my rant - our club has an annual youth fun shoot, plus a 4H Firearms Training Course this summer and have not been able to find any 22 ammo for the events. Over the years, the kids have shot a thousand rounds every year at each event, but this year it will be pellet guns.

I'm 66 years old, I have a couple thousand rounds assorted .22. And that's it. If I see some for sale I might buy 100 rounds or so but I WILL NOT HOARD! Because by doing so I am just making it harder for new shooters (who are the future of the shooting sports and the protection of the Second Amendment) to get ammo for their practice.

I already know how to shoot. I don't need to shoot many rounds of .22 every week. But youngsters need to practice.

Everyone needs to stop hoarding and stop this insane congratulation business when yet another person makes it harder for new shooters to join our sport.

 

[cyphertext]

I'm 66 years old, I have a couple thousand rounds assorted .22. And that's it. If I see some for sale I might buy 100 rounds or so but I WILL NOT HOARD! Because by doing so I am just making it harder for new shooters (who are future of the shooting sports and the protection of the Second Amendment) to get ammo for their practice.

I already know how to shoot. I don't need to shoot many rounds of .22 every week. But youngsters need to practice.

Everyone needs to stop hoarding and stop this insane congratulation business when yet another person makes it harder for new shooters to join our sport.

So, by your own admission here, you don't shoot .22lr much, you already have a stash of a couple thousand rounds, and you continue to buy when you see it for sale.... Wouldn't that be "HOARDING"?

The ammo "have nots" just don't seem to get it... their lack of ammo isn't due to someone else's buying habits... It is due to their own. There are so many resources available to find ammo at reasonable prices available, yet people would rather whine and complain than use them. They expect to just walk into the store and it be on the shelf waiting for them. If you continue with that way of thinking, you will be looking for ammo for a long time.

How many of you complaining about a lack of ammo watch the ammo availability thread in the M&P 15-22 forum? One of the best resources I have had for finding ammo.

How many of you use the Walmart app, to see when your local store has ammo in stock? Yes, you would have to go to the store early in the AM, but if the "HOARDERS" can do it, you can too... and don't say "but I have to be at work", because I haven't met a shooter yet that works 7 days a week.

It is out there, you just have to change how you go about finding it. I still have not paid more than $.06 per round, for any bulk ammo that I have purchased.

 

[djt17]

The thread on the 15-22 forum is how I have purchased .22lr at reasonable prices (< .10/rnd)

 

[smithman 10]

In reply to cypher text

Here's the point. My round count is gradually diminishing, not increasing. And I am not concerned. When it gets down to 500, I'll shoot a lot whole lot less.

I don't consider that hoarding behavior. I am willing to accept the fact that I will shoot fewer rounds of .22 from here on out and that's okay if it leaves more for others who need the practice more than me.

I stress again, if young shooters can't find ammo, the shooting sports and the Second Amendment will suffer.

Think about it.

 

[flundertaker]

Come on now, yall know its quantity over quality. Keep on blasting away.

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[CAJUNLAWYER]

Haven't thought about buying .22 in quite a while. After reading this thread, think I'll stop by the wally, academy and cabelas and buy as much as I can carry. I'll bury it in the back yard for later.

 

[cyphertext]

I stress again, if young shooters can't find ammo, the shooting sports and the Second Amendment will suffer.

Think about it.

I'll stress again that "young shooters" don't have issues finding ammo... they use the internet. Guess you didn't read my post... easier to blame someone else for their actions vs. your own inaction.

 

[ladyT]

Surplus Ammo has 22lr for sale in 10,000 round lots or smaller if that fits your needs.