M falcon
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I have one on my key ring, when I go into a parking lot I have a gun in my hand, a good feeling after dark. YOU WANT MY KEYS ?
M.Falcon
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Am I the only one who appreciated the niche filled by the Freedon Arms mini revolvers
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they are good Ear Nose and Throat at contact range
they are good Ear Nose and Throat at contact range
atlantic157
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that adds a whole new dimension to PERRL (EMT humor)
There will always be the naysayers, but as several above have posted, it has it's place. I like mine during the summer, when I am in gym type shorts (the ones w/ elastic, and no way for a belt), at the ball field. And as aanother posted, when dress allows, it is a BUG to a BUG... I am not taking someone on at 5-7yrds with it, it is a "he/she got the drop on me and is literally on top of me" and jam it into the ribs and press.
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madmedic1955 Quote:
Originally Posted by atlantic157
that adds a whole new dimension to PERRL (EMT humor)
Private joke, ... in a public place.
PERRL, LOC ? English is spoken here, too. Unless, it's a secret.
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Originally Posted by atlantic157
that adds a whole new dimension to PERRL (EMT humor)
yep lmaohowever I fail to mention eye as well
sure to change LOC as well
Private joke, ... in a public place.
PERRL, LOC ? English is spoken here, too. Unless, it's a secret.
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Erich
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"Pupils Equal, Round, Reactive to Light"
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Is that, like, important? My left one is a little larger, and my right one is kinda oblong, and I've gained weight since the knee replacement.
Am I to assume, LOC means loose or constipated?
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GatorFarmer
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I didn't know Freedom Arms still made their mini revolvers. I've only had the NAA version. After a trip back to the factory didn't fix the keyholing issue, and the intermittent habit of the hammer getting out of the safety notches and finding itself over a live primer... I started to question just why I owned it. To be fair, I liked the flip grip that I had, and the .22 LR cylinder worked without causing the keyholing.
It's possible to fumble the cocking action and get a misfire with one of these if one isn't used to SA weapons. It's also possible to get duds when relying on rimfire ammo, so it's probably best to use the better CCI offerings or else use match grade ammo. I'd carry it clipped along my waistband or in a pocket as a BUG to a BUG. One advantage it did have over my P32 was that the stainless construction rendered it rust resistant.
I no longer have one, having found that I can simply slip a Walther PP into my pocket (it's flat, and flat is good) if a J frame is too bulky.
Oddly, a fly/crotch holster was made in year's past for the smaller Walther PPK, being featured in a Bond novel and offered with a special edition PPK not too many years ago as an accessory.
It's possible to fumble the cocking action and get a misfire with one of these if one isn't used to SA weapons. It's also possible to get duds when relying on rimfire ammo, so it's probably best to use the better CCI offerings or else use match grade ammo. I'd carry it clipped along my waistband or in a pocket as a BUG to a BUG. One advantage it did have over my P32 was that the stainless construction rendered it rust resistant.
I no longer have one, having found that I can simply slip a Walther PP into my pocket (it's flat, and flat is good) if a J frame is too bulky.
Oddly, a fly/crotch holster was made in year's past for the smaller Walther PPK, being featured in a Bond novel and offered with a special edition PPK not too many years ago as an accessory.
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Gator, IIRC the hammer is exposed with the clip grip. That's a no-no with NAA minis. The hammer must be covered to carry safely IMO.
You might do much better with a Black Widow. The rifling in the BW is top quality. I never have figured out why the aces at NAA don't make their lr. and magnum minis that way.
You might do much better with a Black Widow. The rifling in the BW is top quality. I never have figured out why the aces at NAA don't make their lr. and magnum minis that way.
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LOC level of conciousness sorry 2nd. nature to some of us and a part of everyday saddly
LOC level of conciousness sorry 2nd. nature to some of us and a part of everyday saddly
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LOC level of conciousness sorry 2nd. nature to some of us and a part of everyday saddly or loss of conciousness
LOC level of conciousness sorry 2nd. nature to some of us and a part of everyday saddly
or loss of conciousness
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LOC level of conciousness sorry 2nd. nature to some of us and a part of everyday saddly
Please excuse my ignorance, but if I don't ask, I don't know. Thanks for responding.
These litle guns have their place. They do what they are made for, deep concealment, reliable and convenient.
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what ignorance
we should all ask about what we dont know, that is one of the reasons I love the firearms board and others
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no ignorance noted, a good ?, we all learn from each other
we should all ask about what we dont know, that is one of the reasons I love the firearms board and others
Doc
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All this talk of .22s for defense reminded me a of quote from Col. Jeff Cooper.
and I paraphrase here,,, "the 9mm is made for killing Europeans. For truly dangerous people use the .45acp".
That being said, I always thought the little NAA minis were a very interesting artifact and I have come close to adding one to my collection on more than one occasion. The Pug caught my attention at the gun shop last week. With it's rubber grips and night sites. I really like the look of the new "Earl" model too.
I agree that these little revolvers have their place. I'm just not sure where that is? on a chain around the neck perhaps? (interesting jewelry).
>>>>A bug to a bug<<< hmmmm? would a good knife or spare ammo be better use of pocket space?
All this talk of .22s for defense reminded me a of quote from Col. Jeff Cooper.
and I paraphrase here,,, "the 9mm is made for killing Europeans. For truly dangerous people use the .45acp".
That being said, I always thought the little NAA minis were a very interesting artifact and I have come close to adding one to my collection on more than one occasion. The Pug caught my attention at the gun shop last week. With it's rubber grips and night sites. I really like the look of the new "Earl" model too.
I agree that these little revolvers have their place. I'm just not sure where that is? on a chain around the neck perhaps? (interesting jewelry).
>>>>A bug to a bug<<< hmmmm? would a good knife or spare ammo be better use of pocket space?
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flop-shank
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Primetime, I use a NAA Black Widow and doubt that the PUG offers any useful concealment advantage over it. YMMV. With the smaller magnum size mini revolver grips, it's easier to hide than a P3AT and will fit in the front pocket of any pants I own. It offers an inch more barrel (and sight radius) than the Pug, otherwise they're dimensionally identical. The Black Widow is scary accurate and a skilled shot could put the heat on an opponent at any reasonable self-defense range. I'll take it over a pocket knife, or more ammo.
CCI .22 mag. TNT Gold Dots will expand to between .32" and .36", even after penetrating four layers of denim. Penetration is between 7 3/4" and 9 1/2" in Perma-Gel, and they shoot exactly to POA in my fixed sighted gun. I can't vouch for expansion, penetration, or accuracy from the Pug.
CCI .22 mag. TNT Gold Dots will expand to between .32" and .36", even after penetrating four layers of denim. Penetration is between 7 3/4" and 9 1/2" in Perma-Gel, and they shoot exactly to POA in my fixed sighted gun. I can't vouch for expansion, penetration, or accuracy from the Pug.
ah - my bear gun - really - had a bear bothering at our fishing cabin. kept breaking into the kitchen window. we were in the cabin one day when he came around and all i had was the little 22 lr freedon, so i shot him in the head thru the window at a range of about 4". he fell off the gas platform and ran away, never bothered again.
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I recently saw two of these little beauties in my local gunshop (in France). One in .22LR and the other .22 Mag. Is was surprised at their size. Now I want one. Concealed carry is illegal in France, but one under the pillow would be reassuring. The more I read about them, the more I want one. I had considered a Walther P22 as a quick access gun around the house, and am still quite interested.
I have read that .22 is not really suitable as a self defence gun, but when you consider that a P22 was used in one of the recent Finnish gun massacres, it brings it home to you how dangerous such guns are in the wrong hands. Like all firearms, I treat them with the greatest respect. I hope all who read this will do the same. Any abuse strengthens the anti-gun lobby.
