AMMO TALK

[rtquig]

Good that they are making good on fixing your order. Probably the shipper is more to blame than Cabela's though. Did you get to keep the "trashed" ammo?

Do report back and let us know how the "Tactical" CCI rounds work out for you! If they are worthwhile, I might have to order up a huge load prior to the Feb 2011 crappy ammo law going into effect in Kalifornia.

I may have kept a round or two of the shipped ammo .
They shipped 2 small boxes in one big box and the ammo had way too much room to tumble around.

About a month ago I ordered a trueglo from Dicks on sale. Same thing happened, looked like they ran the box over with a truck a few times and even the scope was broken.

I put the blame on UPS for both shipments.
I've ordered ammo from Cabelas before without any problems.

 

[rtquig]

In summary:

This law requires face to face transactions only, (no online purchases), and all purchasers of ammunition to be thumbprinted, IDed, exact types and amounts of ammunition recorded, and carries jail time and fines for selling to known criminals.

NJ has something similiar. For handgun ammo, you need to show your firearms ID card. Most of the big stores like Dicks also require to see your ID card even with the 22LR, but the smaller shops don't bust your chops over it.

 

[trueg50]

I love Vermont.

Dicks sporting goods associate: "You're over 18 right?"
Me: "Yup"
Associate: "Ok, here you go"

*Swipe the credit card.*

Transaction complete.

 

[Snyderman]

I love Vermont.

Dicks sporting goods associate: "You're over 18 right?"
Me: "Yup"
Associate: "Ok, here you go"

*Swipe the credit card.*

Transaction complete.

Your only prob is paying with plastic. You pay more in the end AND you're on the grid maaaaan!

 

[rtquig]

I pay for everything with plastic, pay in full every month and get rewards for using the cards. All credit card companies want you to carry a balance so they make money. Not saying I've never paid a late fee, its happened when I get lazy and wait to pay the bills in one sitting instead of the day they come in.

Noticed Cabela's had a sale on Federal bulk 525, $69 4 boxes and a dry box. Normally $89..

 

[grimreaper21]

now in that case the drybox actually comes out as free... unlike when they usually try to pretend it does.

 

[rtquig]

I wish they were closer than 3 hours away so I could just go to the store.

 

[scootle]

Noticed Cabela's had a sale on Federal bulk 525, $69 4 boxes and a dry box. Normally $89..

The Cabela's deal with free shipping coupon code(s) is what I used to get my latest load of .22LR. It's actually a pretty good deal if you make a large order and use the free shipping discount code.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Picked up a 500 box of Federal Lightening at Walmart. 40gr lead round nose 1240fps. It ain't bulk pack... 10 separate boxes & plastic holders. Don't remember seeing this before. Anyone tried it? Only $14.70/500 !!!

 

[john16443]

Picked up a 500 box of Federal Lightening at Walmart. 40gr lead round nose 1240fps. It ain't bulk pack... 10 separate boxes & plastic holders. Don't remember seeing this before. Anyone tried it? Only $14.70/500 !!!

Yes, I've tried it and I like it! It performed the same as the Fed Champion bulk packs in my 15-22, ie. a few ejection failures in the box, but nothing I can't live with. Works well in my S&W 22A. Just wish I could find it more often in my area, it's hit or miss.

 

[Jav]

Took my brand new 15-22 MOE out to the range today and managed to squeeze out 100 rounds of this:

and it was 100%! Very happy with today The shop was out of CCI minimags and I was planning on just getting 100 rounds but these were on sale for $18 so why not? haha

 

[scootle]

So any updated news/results on the CCI "tactical" ammo? It seems only Cabela's carries it, so that carries a small price premium over other vendors who sell CCI Mini-Mag for slightly less. Cabela's prices out the CCI "tactical" at $99.99 for 4x375 boxes = 1500 rounds (with a dry box), making it about $6.67 per 100. This puts it on par with most places that sell 40gr Mini-Mag for around $6 per 100 (or less).

Has anyone done a side-by-side ammo comparison between the Tactical rounds and regular 40gr solid Mini-Mag? It almost looks to me like the Tactical in the 375 round loose boxes is kinda like "bulk" 40gr Mini-Mag of sorts (no cool little plastic trays). I saw some earlier posts testing the Tactical vs. the 36gr HP Mini-Mag, but the HP and lighter weight (faster muzzle velocity) might affect things a tiny bit. I can't tell if the Tactical load has a slightly lower muzzle velocity by design than 40gr Mini-Mag (1200 vs 1235 fps?)

edit: Did some internet archaeology and found some interesting tidbits. It's odd that CCI doesn't mention this product at all on their website that I could find. Anyhow... some TV segments with CCI product people say this "Tactical" round is a copper plated, "truncated" round nose, standard velocity load. It seems there was some sort of engineering done on the nose geometry to fix feeding problems people were having in .22LR conversions on their full-size AR rifles and some of our favorite dedicated .22lr tacti-cool platforms as well. I have to wonder why they went to a standard velocity load though -- must be fine tuning for the new nose shape. Here's a snippet attributed to a CCI rep:

We tested several standard cartridges and 5 prototype rds through S&W M&P 15-22 rifles to determine which version was the most reliable. We discovered that the ammunition that became 22 LR Tactical had a far greater reliability characteristic than any of the other rds.

22 LR Tactical is slightly down loaded than regular 22 LRHV ammunition at 1200 fps vs. 1235 fps. Accuracy will run a little better than Mini-Mag but not quite as good as Eley (it won’t be as spendy as Eley either).

The ammo is CCI part # 0953 and will be released to general sales next year.

Regards,

Brett Olin
Development Engineer
CCI/Speer/ATK

Maybe if I can get a nice deal on a shipment of these from Cabela's I'll park it next to my stash of 40gr Mini-Mag and see how it goes.

 

[Lawyerman]

I have a pair of MP 15-22's- an original, plain barrel gun and an MOE version.

I have run probably 7000 rounds through the plain barrel gun and maybe 3,000 through the newer, MOE.

The best overall load for me for function has been the Federal 510 40 grain load- Champions from Walmart. $1.47/50. The next best has been the Federal Bulk pack, 550 from Walmart- I have a few jams with it that I attribute mainly to inconsistent powder amounts and not fully cycling the gun but on average it's very good.

I have some Aguila that I bought from CMP that I need to try but it looks promising based on my use in other rifles.

Neither gun will feed the Winchester 333/555 load very well which is a shame because it has been VERY accurate in both guns.

I could not get Remington Golden bullets to run very well in either gun so I don't use them.

I have used some CCI Blazer and also the Mini Mags. Both are excellent but the Blazers are hard to come buy locally and the Mini Mags are expensive for just blasting so I don't shoot alot of them.

 

[maverick88]

You can buy 5000 rds of Blazer`s from Glenn`s army navy for $149.90.
Check out their web site.

 

[scootle]

Just an FYI...

Palmetto State Armory is doing a special on Federal Champion (36gr plated HP, high-velocity) bulk packs (525) for 15.99/box. Shipping is $5/box or $19/case (case is 10 boxes)

Stock up!

 

[Antrieb]

Will Aguila "no powder" work through these guns? I know it probably won't cycle the next round through but it would be nice to be able to plink without my neighbor thinking that I'm hunting on his dang property.
AMM-066 - Ammo .22 Long Rifle Aguila Super Colibri LRN 20 Grain 500 fps 500 Round Brick No Powder Super Quiet

 

[UpstateNY]

Will Aguila "no powder" work through these guns? I know it probably won't cycle the next round through but it would be nice to be able to plink without my neighbor thinking that I'm hunting on his dang property.
AMM-066 - Ammo .22 Long Rifle Aguila Super Colibri LRN 20 Grain 500 fps 500 Round Brick No Powder Super Quiet

That would be a great solution for myself as well. I don't think my immediate neighbors appreciate the times I've gone plinking in the back of my lot. However, the description specifically states not for use in long-barreled guns. I'd be curious to hear if someone has attempted to fire them from a 15-22 though.

 

[Deadonmyfeet]

The super colibri will not cycle in my 15-22. Tried it just to see if it would work.

 

[Antrieb]

That would be a great solution for myself as well. I don't think my immediate neighbors appreciate the times I've gone plinking in the back of my lot. However, the description specifically states not for use in long-barreled guns. I'd be curious to hear if someone has attempted to fire them from a 15-22 though.

Hey brotha I'm in Upstate NY too just north of you. I know it's a pain but I wouldn't mind manually cycling the next round in if it lets me to shoot out back. I have some pumpkins that need taking care of, lol.

 

[UpstateNY]

I don't think the cycling is the main issue. The description says that they might not clear the barrel and firing a second round would cause major damage. After looking through a bunch of feedback on these rounds, it sounds like a LOT of people have no problems firing them through their rifles. Although I didn't see anything regarding the 15-22 specifically. I might have to be a guinea pig and pick up a box. Quieter than an airgun they say!