An Apology....

Jst1mr

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I started a recent thread that was in incredibly poor taste. I missed the symbolism involved and thought I was being cute - actually, I was disrespectful in any number of ways.

Thanks to the forum members who delivered the well-deserved lashing, thanks to those who allowed me to remain a member of this fine establishment, and please accept a pledge to be more careful and thoughtful in the future.

Merry Christmas to all, and special blessings to those words have provided comfort to me and my family in a difficult holiday season.
 
My apology

Jst1mr said it best, and I'm truly ignorant about art and paintings. There is no excuse.

In a recent thread that was in incredibly poor taste, I posted a response that was also disrespectful. I have no knowledge of art history or any sense of art appreciation.

Thanks to those who allowed me to remain a member of this fine establishment, and please accept a pledge to be more careful and thoughtful in the future.

Merry Christmas to all,

Bob, Engineer1911
 
I may not be the best person to say this because I too have often stuck my foot in my mouth but you took the right step "Jst1mr". I admire anyone that can accept and apologize for things they feel they handled the wrong way. Merry Christmas!
 
We all dip a toe over the line every now and again, and I'm no exception.

In your defense, it was a fascinatingly bizarre painting (I couldn't stop staring) that had many perfectly harmless (if baffling) interpretations, and I took your motivation in posting it to have everything to do with a lighthearted take on its gorilla and ours, and nothing more.

Kudos to you for taking your lashes -- didn't deserve more than one or two.

Besides, with CAJUNLAWYER on break, somebody's gotta do this stuff. ;)
 
"Errors, once discovered, are more than half amended." (George Washington)

And you've taken care of the other half nicely. "Good on ya!" - as they say. I didn't see the thread but I always admire a man who can say he's sorry. Would solve a lot of the world's problems if we all could. Merry Christmas. :)
 
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Just1mr,

I looked up the thread in question. Based on my own knowledge of religion and art, I had only a vague sense of impropriety at what I was seeing. Others obviously felt differently, based on their own knowledge of these subjects.

Your apology was generous and apparently appreciated, and for those reasons I commend you for it. As others have said, including ones who did not see the thread, it takes a fine person to admit mistakes and ask for forgiveness.

I just want you to know that you are not alone in having missed any symbolism or irreverence in the picture you posted. I miss those as well, and would appreciate anyone who might PM me and let me know what the picture satirizes or disrespects, as I would like to be better informed about it.

None of what I have considered about the picture as possible problems seems to make any sense to me. I do not, for instance, see any evidence that the female figure in the picture is who she is being interpreted as being. If this picture is based upon a work of art with which I am not familiar, please, someone tell me which one it is.

Thanks.
 
This is a follow-up to my earlier post:

The picture that was the subject of this apology thread has really perplexed me, and so far nobody has been able to explain the problem with it. I have done a little research this morning, and here is what I have deduced.

The picture is what is known as a "meme". It does not appear to be one that is based on a previous work of art. Describing a "meme" is difficult, especially for those of us who did not grow up with the Internet being second-nature to us.

A "meme" (or "teme") is a visual expression of an idea. It is either adapted from an existing one (like a photo, for example) or is created from scratch by the "artist". It is used to convey an idea by transmission across the internet from person to person -- the way we forward things of this nature that we like, or share them on sites for that purpose.

This meme appears to have been created two years ago and is not titled except as "just Virgin Mary and a gorilla." So yes, the figure in the picture is intended by the creator to be the mother of Jesus.

The rest of the picture is entirely open to interpretation, I think.

Oftentimes in memes and other depictions, gorillas can be a reference to evolution, and when combined with human figures, usually in a comic or ironic sense, encourages viewers to contrast the reality of our world with one in which only apes were living.

This meme, therefore, is really subject to interpretation as to whether it is sacreligeous. Since this is Handejector's board, and he and others consider that it is, for purposes here, it is.

I don't want to influence anyone else's opinion of what the meme represents, so I will keep my own interpretation to myself. However, I think when Just1mr posted this bizarre picture and invited captions to it, I do not think he was knowingly violating any Forum rules, and I think Handejector's locking of the thread and, at the same time, saying he would "let it slide" is a fine response under the circumstances.

Hope this helps anyone else who is trying to understand this..... :)
 
I remember it now. I didn't have any reaction at all except, "danged if I can think of a caption."

In Japan I was watching a street performer. He was taking people from the crowd and posing them, no one could make out what he was working on. Slowly the tableau came together and it was the crucifixion of Christ. I was deeply offended and angry, especially since this "show" had been put on by, I assumed, non-Christian Japanese.
 
We all dip a toe over the line every now and again, and I'm no exception.

In your defense, it was a fascinatingly bizarre painting (I couldn't stop staring) that had many perfectly harmless (if baffling) interpretations, and I took your motivation in posting it to have everything to do with a lighthearted take on its gorilla and ours, and nothing more.

Kudos to you for taking your lashes -- didn't deserve more than one or two.

Besides, with CAJUNLAWYER on break, somebody's gotta do this stuff. ;)

On break? I THOUGHT he was in Jail?
 
Don't sweat it friend. I posted a thread that seems to have been deleted before anyone got to read it. Oh well, I guess we've all done our share. I try to be good, but some subjects that seem innocuous to us might be volatile to others.
 
"Let he, who is without sin, cast the first stone".
Let the man ,who is man enough to own up to his transgressions, be praised as a man among men. These days known, without reference to Biblical speak, as a STAND UP GUY. Nick
 
Nobody is perfect. I have done my share and then some of stupid things. I learned a long time ago that a sincere apology is really the only way to deal with an indiscretion of almost all kinds.

Good people will forgive me for just about anything, because they have done something similar, at some point. People who DON'T want to be forgiving are people I don't care to associate with.
 
Forgiven.

I'm forgiven.
I'm very glad about that. I'm so glad I'll extend the same to others.

Merry Christmas to you all. I hope you all share some good time with those you love and cherish. ;)

Hold a kind thought for those who won't be home with friends and family-
Our troops
First Responders
Those who serve others in professions that don't get breaks

May God bless all of them and be with all of you.
 
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