Another reason to be anti-EV

Manual transmissions are fun on a sporty vehicle...until you hit rush hour traffic

I spent twenty years driving the DC beltway with a manual. Never bothered me in the least. My wife drove DC rush hour for even longer than I did with a manual.
 
I've driven a number of automatics, the wife's CVT, and manual tranny's both synchronized and crash box. The automatic I found closest to the control possible with a manual was the (2013 or so) VW automatic. Apparently a close relative of the famed Porsche PDK, I really liked it. Left to itself, it made sure you were in the correct gear for your road speed. And throttle opening.

I'm not a fan of most of the paddle shift automatics. The one's I've driven have a nanny to evaluate your gear ration choice and road speed and decide if the shift will take place.
 
Lexus might have gotten a little closer. They are now making a hybrid that you can plug in. Toyota meets Tesla kinda thing.

That’s not really the evolutionary path….

The path has been: ICE, Hybrd, Plug In Hybrid, BEV, ??
 
I drove a VW Beetle for 12 years, still sort of miss the manual 4 speed. That and the rear mounted engine made it a good snow car.
A news story in a local paper, a Swedish EV maker donating a fire blanket to the local PD in a public ceremony with a demonstration on how to use it.
 
I drove a VW Beetle for 12 years, still sort of miss the manual 4 speed. That and the rear mounted engine made it a good snow car.
A news story in a local paper, a Swedish EV maker donating a fire blanket to the local PD in a public ceremony with a demonstration on how to use it.
I owned two VWs before kids and too much stuff. One Beetle, one Squareback. I loved both of them, but the Beetle was more fun to drive. It also had a lot of personality. I have often thought of buying a restored Beetle, but it would be totally impractical in my current circumstances. Remember the VW ad about "How does the guy who runs the snowplow drive to work?" On that topic, there is a place here in town that rebuilds and restores old VWs. He usually has a dozen or so for sale. But they ain't cheap. Anywhere from $15K to $35K.
 
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I think the PHEV (plug-in electric/gasoline hybrid vehicles) are the wave of the future....
Quite possibly.

The ‘greenest’ car in America might surprise you

A new report says a plug-in hybrid can beat out the greenest of electric vehicles
"...a new report from the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy suggests that the “greenest” car in America may not be fully electric. The nonprofit group, which has rated the pollution from vehicles for decades, says the winning car this year is the Toyota Prius Prime SE, a plug-in hybrid that can go 44 miles on electricity before switching to hybrid.“It’s the shape of the body, the technology within it, and the overall weight,” said Peter Huether, senior research associate for transportation at ACEEE. “And all different types of Priuses are very efficient.”

It’s not the first time that a plug-in vehicle has topped the GreenerCars list; the Prius Prime also won out in 2020 and 2022. But with more and more electric vehicles on the market, the staying power of the plug-in hybrid is surprising...

DWalt said:
Seems to me that there might be a market for a basic and relatively inexpensive EV with minimal features, having a range of 50 miles or so for elderly and less affluent people to use in getting around town....
Heck, there might be a need for a basic and relatively inexpensive car PERIOD. Devoid of unnecessary "frippery" like infotainment screens, keyless locks (which can be picked by any diligent teenager) etc. Like the original Volkswagen Beetle :rolleyes:
 
I hear this a lot from people without any experience with manuals. The thing is, your subconscious takes over and you don't always think of gear changes...
Unless old age "takes over" your left knee :eek: So far, so good for me, though. Only had one (unmentionable) automatic in >50 years of driving.

My neighbour up the street's 3 kids, 20, 18 & 16 (just got his Learner's), can all drive a standard shift. Good on 'em!
 
Does anyone know what a Prius would get for mileage if you took away all of the electric gear and just ran it on its ICE?
 
As stated, it is not as simple as it might seem to simply remove the electric motor and battery from an existing hybrid and run everything with the ICE. Of course there could be a Prius manufactured with only a similar 1.8 L ICE for propulsion. I'd guess that would probably get 25-30 mpg. About what a VW 1600 got.
 
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Ματθιας;141941246 said:
No one seems to know how many charging cycles the battery can take before it turns unless...
Yeah, no.

Cycle count is technically unlimited.
Lithium types decay over time wether or not you use them. Except for perhaps some extreme cases of merciless duty, this end of service life will claim them first
 
Cycle count is technically unlimited.
Lithium types decay over time wether or not you use them. Except for perhaps some extreme cases of merciless duty, this end of service life will claim them first

"Cycle count is technically unlimited."


This is incorrect. Accumulated charge/discharge cycles wear out a battery. Eventually battery capacity and internal impedance degrade to the point where the battery is unusable. The chemistry doesn't matter; they all suffer from charging and discharging.

A good analogy is an ever shrinking gas tank. Charging and discharging is akin to filling and using the gasoline in an ICE fuel tank. Capacity degradation and increasing internal impedance appear as a gradually shrinking tank and slowly clogging fuel lines. You see effects as if you have a smaller tank (battery) with less ability to deliver fuel (current).

My career is aerospace electrical power dealing extensively with batteries, their chemistries and usage equipment. Batteries are not the panacea than many want us to believe. In many cases, they're a necessary evil. FWIW, I worked with parts of the electrical power on Eviation's Alice. By weight, she is more than half LiIon battery. That's a heavy load to get airborne. Unlike a conventional airplane, she doesn't get lighter with fuel burn and there's no weight advantage to taking on a partial fuel load. A technical achievement for sure, but in my opinion, true practicality is a way off. Aircraft – Eviation
 
Improvement in battery efficiency technology will be the new frontier. And not just batteries used for vehicles.
Battery size/density is another frontier to be conquered.
Imagine what products could be made if a battery could be miniaturized, like electrical components have been, yet retain their full voltage and amp rate.
Hand held electromagnetic rail guns anybody?
 
Speaking of flooding, that's the way to put out an EV fire...

Porsche faces lawsuits—did its EV battery catch fire and sink a ship?

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Did a Porsche electric vehicle start a fire that sank a cargo ship and sent some 3,900 vehicles to the ocean floor? That’s what the courts are trying to figure out, as they deal with a year-old lawsuit and, now, a second one more recently filed that claims the car, and the company that made it, are at fault. The Felicity Ace car-carrier ship caught fire, capsized and sank off the coast of Portugal in 2022, on its way from Germany to the U.S...

The suits claim that a faulty EV made by Porsche ignited the blaze, and that Volkswagen Group – which owns all of the car brands mentioned [Porsches, Volkswagens, Bentleys, and Lamborghinis] – didn’t tell Mitsui and Allianz of the “dangers and precautionary measures required to transport an EV.”..
 
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