Another Reason to Secure Your Firearm

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OTERO COUNTY, Colo. (KRDO) - An inmate escaped from the Arkansas Valley Regional Medical Center in La Junta late Thursday night while receiving medical attention.

The Otero County Sheriff's Office said 38-year-old Ronald Collier from Gillette, Wyoming, allegedly overpowered a deputy and security officer Thursday night around 11:30 p.m. and ran away from the hospital wearing a black and white striped jumpsuit with handcuffs.

Authorities are on the hunt for an escaped inmate in Otero County, believed to be armed | KRDO.

According to the news story Mr Collier stole an unlocked van from somebody's driveway right outside the hospital in which the owner had an unsecured handgun stashed under the driver's seat. We now have an armed convict running around Otero County.

Actually, he probably drove back to Gillette.


On a side note, one of my supervisors when I worked for G4S had been a corrections officer for several years and he was the guy G4S always called to do prisoner watch at Memorial Hospital.

His number one,Ironclad, no matter what rule was that he always put leg irons on the prisoner and chained them to something unmovable I usually the bed.

UPDATE The prisoner was captured in Roswell New Mexico

 

[arjay]

You Sir, need to move!

1/2 dozen locations lol

 

[Onomea]

Always assumed it was true, but interesting to see that I am not alone in how I deal with the issue.

 

[.38SuperMan]

I have a steel gun safe with key locks secured by steel cable to the frame of my cars. Each are hidden under a false floor panel and if I want to get really stealth there’s a hidden compartment under a second false floor. Iif you didn’t know there was a false floor you’d probably never notice it. I keep my gun in it if needed and extra cash, wallet and my watch if in a questionable area. These safes are inexpensive and would seriously slow down a thief.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

If we leave a pick-up truck full of gun stickers in the driveway is that considered illegal bait?

 

[.455_Hunter]

What helps solve this problem is the end of all gun free zones that are enforced either by legal restriction, "policy" or screening procedures. If you want the public to patronize your facility, the carry of arms will not be restricted.

 

[Baxter6551]

I have a console vault made by Tuffy. It was sold through the Ram dealer and they installed it. Tuffy sells models for various applications.

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[biku324]

What helps solve this problem is the end of all gun free zones that are enforced either by legal restriction, "policy" or screening procedures. If you want the public to patronize your facility, the carry of arms will not be restricted.

Nope. If the property owner doesn't want armed folks on his/her property, that's his/her right. Don't like it? Stay away.

 

[Smoke]

In Colorado Springs not even the police are allowed to carry a firearm in the secure area of the Municipal Courthouse.

I did security for the Courthouse. I carried my gun but I was there in the middle of the night.
I saw a couple of cops in the basement one night with their guns. Same thing, it was the middle of the night and nobody was paying me to enforce the Firearms rules in the courthouse.

I was eating lunch in the break room one night and found an 80 year old copy of Robin Hood in the book exchange. I still have it.

 

[45Smashemflat]

Lots of recent posts on my local Nextdoor app about guns being stolen from cars. Every one was a gun, in an UNLOCKED car, and the gun was just stashed somewhere, like the console or glove box. Jeez folks, at least lock your doors. I’m not victim blaming, as folks shouldn’t be stealing. But still…

I wonder how many of these same folks had garage door openers in these unlocked cars, and behind said garage door was an UNLOCKED pass through into the house?

On a different angle, I’ve wondered how easy it would be to rig a parked car such that after a thief got inside, it would lock up and prevent escape. I could see some entertainment value in setting a trap like that.

 

[AJ]

My mazda cx5 will allow me to lock anyone inside the car if key is outside and they can't get out. My wife fusses at me all the time for locking her in while I run into store

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Locks of any kind rarely stop thieves. A good crowbar over comes most locks.

 

[SAFireman]

Lots of recent posts on my local Nextdoor app about guns being stolen from cars. Every one was a gun, in an UNLOCKED car, and the gun was just stashed somewhere, like the console or glove box. Jeez folks, at least lock your doors. I’m not victim blaming, as folks shouldn’t be stealing. But still…

I wonder how many of these same folks had garage door openers in these unlocked cars, and behind said garage door was an UNLOCKED pass through into the house?

On a different angle, I’ve wondered how easy it would be to rig a parked car such that after a thief got inside, it would lock up and prevent escape. I could see some entertainment value in setting a trap like that.

There is a whole TV series about this thing - Bait Car

It is pretty amusing....it was originally based on catching car thieves, but would have the same effect on burglars if they closed the door.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I do not leave guns in a car unattended.

Ditto.

Sadly, it sometimes can happen if I go to a venue where there are metal detectors and I am forced to leave my gun behind. I hate it when that happens. In this neck of the woods, it's a rarity for me because I never attend sporting events or large concerts. But smaller music venues can have metal detectors so I am prepared for that IF I plan to attend such a thing. RARELY!

 

[Doug M.]

Lots of recent posts on my local Nextdoor app about guns being stolen from cars. Every one was a gun, in an UNLOCKED car, and the gun was just stashed somewhere, like the console or glove box. Jeez folks, at least lock your doors. I’m not victim blaming, as folks shouldn’t be stealing. But still…

I wonder how many of these same folks had garage door openers in these unlocked cars, and behind said garage door was an UNLOCKED pass through into the house?

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This kind of stuff makes me crazy, for lots of reasons.
1) As a rule, doors should only be unsecured to pass through them. There are exceptions (I have seen a few folks here note that they have a health condition that makes it necessary for potential rescuers to be able to get in), but they are darned rare at best. If you think a locked door is an inconvenience, pay someone to slap you until your thought process is fixed. It is a less inconvenient than being victimized. The value in preventing stupid drunks from getting themselves shot when they go in the wrong house is worth every bit of the potential difficulty.

2) These are the people that makes enemies for the rest of us with their stupidity. I agree that the criminals are responsible, but we can take simple steps to make being a criminal a lot more of a pain in the butt. If your complacency arms a criminal, you are not of my tribe. You are not a serious firearm person if you do this, and that is the polite version. That is not even threshold minimum responsibility.

3) Generally speaking, a sidearm should be worn, not put someplace dumb in your car. If you don't know this, there is a major gap in your firearms training/education.

 

[cwo4uscgret]

I disagree.

The only time I leave a gun in a vehicle is if the law doesn't allow me to carry into the location. At that point it's the law makers fault.
I use a small lock box with a cable around a seat post but that's all I'm doing.

Until these law makers realize it's their fault guns get stolen nothing will change.

Before anyone starts, I work for myself and signs mean nothing in this state, so it actually is the lawmakers fault a gun is in my vehicle and not on my body.

I have a choice to make. At times I have doctors appointments in “no gun zone” buildings, etc. I had one doctor ask me: “What gun are you carrying today?” There’s really one place I won’t carry a firearm to (nor lock it in the car) and that’s Brook Army Medical Center; the gun stays home. I’ve gone to an ER and then admitted - hello security I have a firearm you need to lock up for me. Upon discharge from the hospital they give it back to me.

 

[Smoke]

I have a choice to make. At times I have doctors appointments in “no gun zone” buildings, etc. I had one doctor ask me: “What gun are you carrying today?” There’s really one place I won’t carry a firearm to (nor lock it in the car) and that’s Brook Army Medical Center; the gun stays home. I’ve gone to an ER and then admitted - hello security I have a firearm you need to lock up for me. Upon discharge from the hospital they give it back to me.

I am asking this is a question because I don't remember but isn't BAMC on Ft. Sam? How do you get a gun on post?