Another Reason to Secure Your Firearm

The only time I leave a gun in a vehicle is if the law doesn't allow me to carry into the location. At that point it's the law makers fault.
I use a small lock box with a cable around a seat post but that's all I'm doing.

Until these law makers realize it's their fault guns get stolen nothing will change.

Before anyone starts, I work for myself and signs mean nothing in this state, so it actually is the lawmakers fault a gun is in my vehicle and not on my body.
 
The only time I leave a gun in a vehicle is if the law doesn't allow me to carry into the location. At that point it's the law makers fault.
I use a small lock box with a cable around a seat post but that's all I'm doing.

Until these law makers realize it's their fault guns get stolen nothing will change.

Before anyone starts, I work for myself and signs mean nothing in this state, so it actually is the lawmakers fault a gun is in my vehicle and not on my body.

What cable and lockbox do you use?
 
What sign?

I secured my very first S&W with a heavy duty motorcycle cable lock under the seat of my Dodge Diplomat. They stole whole car.....I bet that gun is still chained under the seat (the cable went down and looped around the car frame (I cut the holes myself).

I am not responsible for the actions of criminals, but if I catch them....I will intercede.
 
What cable and lockbox do you use?
I just went out to the truck to look, the key says "Maverick" and there are no markings on the box itself.

I bought a few of them about 20 years ago. I use one for my J-Frame BUG and another for my M&P 9, they are keyed alike.

It's enough to keep honest people honest and my conscience clear in the case of a break in.
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Seems like it should be common sense not to leave any firearm in a vehicle but some folks are lacking in that area.

Just one more case of stupid gun owners .

Have you ever noticed the NO GUNS placard on the doors of a US Post Office? So what do you do when you have to go inside to send a package or deal with a notification left in your mailbox?
 
Have you ever noticed the NO GUNS placard on the doors of a US Post Office? So what do you do when you have to go inside to send a package or deal with a notification left in your mailbox?

My postmistress is a nice lady; she has never once asked me to empty my pockets.

As to the topic at hand, I try to not get too wound-around-the-axle regarding what other people do. Everybody has to make their own choices based on their own unique situation.
 
If you can't get away with having it on you, the least you can do is not just put it in the center console or glovebox. That's the first place thieves target. A lockbox can be useful, but again, being discreet about disarming and putting it away would be another thing.

If the places you frequent don't have metal detectors and actual security checking you, makes your choices... I prefer don't ask, don't tell, when dealing with my carry habits. It's no ones business but mine, really. :rolleyes:

Most shootings also notably happen in "gun free zones". I am not advocating to "break the law" but some laws are ignorant and can endanger you... YMMV.
 
We discussed this several years ago.

There were those that professed that they were not responsible for the actions of thieves. They would continue to leave their guns inside their vehicles unsecured. :rolleyes:

Those are the same irresponsible idiots who ultimately then complain about safe storage laws being passed. They get the government they deserve and the rest of us just have to live with it. It’s not a big deal with a well crafted safe storage law, but they are not always well crafted laws.

Unfortunately that kind of ignorant self centered “but mah rights” attitude also has carry over to other irresponsible behavior with guns that results on cries for more gun restrictions.

It’s in our own interests as responsible gun owners to educate and or adjust the attitudes of those irresponsible gun owners.
 
There are some basic common sense steps you can take to prevent theft of a handgun if you have to leave it in your car, in increasing order of effectiveness:

1) lock your car;

2) keep your vehicle rental car clean so that there is absolutely nothing in the car that might even tempt a thief to break in. They will usually select a more lucrative target.

3) Keep your gun well out of sight. Under the seat is safer than n a center console or glove box, as that is at best the 3rd place the will look not the first or second;

4) A lock box can b had for under $30 that will let you keep the gun on n the box and the box out of sight under a seat and cable locked to the seat frame. It’s not theft proof, but the thief will have to have cable cutters with them, and that’s unlikely;

5) A box that bolts to the floor is even more secure, but it again needs to be out of sight. Whether that works or not will depend on how far your seats slide;

6) You can buy a console safe that bolts to the body of the car inside your console. They are model specific but they are not cheap ($300 or so). They are very theft resistant and work for anything you might leave in the console.
 
Handcuffs sound good but they need to be the moderner sort that can’t be picked so easy. And handcuff keys can be found all over. Maybe one of those “kryptonite” bike locks…
 
Interesting subject. Again. I have taken the slide and mag off my gun before and just left the frame to be stolen, if found. I do see a ton of pickup trucks with all the "I have guns" stickers across the back windows. Pretty cool, but not when you live in or around the city. The PGH City criminals don't wander too far away from the safety of the city.
My gun is concealed when I conceal carry. I've gone into places like the Post office and nobody knows the difference. When I worked for the PGH School District my gun stayed home; usually. Just use common sense. When we travel out of state I bite the bullet and leave firearms at home. Knives are better than nothing.
 
And some folks allow their guns and other high value items to be stolen for both insurance reasons and to pay off debts to friends..

Were i work, we have an annoying problem of cars being robbed. Ironically it seems ONLY the drug dealers get robbed.

Dang, where do you work? A pharmacy? Hey, as long as it's other folks getting ripped off...
 
Interesting subject. Again. I have taken the slide and mag off my gun before and just left the frame to be stolen, if found. I do see a ton of pickup trucks with all the "I have guns" stickers across the back windows. Pretty cool, but not when you live in or around the city. The PGH City criminals don't wander too far away from the safety of the city.
My gun is concealed when I conceal carry. I've gone into places like the Post office and nobody knows the difference. When I worked for the PGH School District my gun stayed home; usually. Just use common sense. When we travel out of state I bite the bullet and leave firearms at home. Knives are better than nothing.

I feel the same way about those signs that say things like “this property protected by Smith & Wesson”. It’s just advertising you have firearms in the home.
 
I have a small safe that I use in my vehicle. I do not store the guns in there except when I go somewhere where a concealed weapon is prohibited. It is bolted to the floor under a back seat in my pickup.

This. Only when necessary (ie entering a building where carry is verboten) and then in a locked metal safe out of sight in a locked vehicle.
 

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