Any 41mag ammo available?
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I can see why - all of it is listed as "out of stock"!
I just picked up my first 41 Mag. a couple of weeks ago. No local shop has any ammo, but a couple of them say that ammo companies make only one run of 41 production a year, and it *should* be in the next few months.
Starline brass says they are out of stock, but " expected availability: 04/30/2010".
Georgia arms has the lead bullet load available - it's not a full magnum load, but I plan on getting some just to see how it shoots & for the brass.
Let's hope they do a production run soon!
Take care,
Bob S.
scorvers
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If your'e gonna shoot a .41, you HAVE to reload. If you don't want to go the full bore route, get a Lee Loader. Kinda rudimentary, but it works well. http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1270652288.3706=/html/catalog/cleeloader.html
I didn't see the .41 listed, but try contacting Lee and see if they can make one for you. I bought one for a fella who lives near my camp and shoots a .44 Mag. he loves it. For less that $100 you can reload 100 rounds and seeing that .41 Mag is selling for $20+ for a box of 20, you'll save big time seeing as you'll have plenty of powder left over and the brass in hand.
I didn't see the .41 listed, but try contacting Lee and see if they can make one for you. I bought one for a fella who lives near my camp and shoots a .44 Mag. he loves it. For less that $100 you can reload 100 rounds and seeing that .41 Mag is selling for $20+ for a box of 20, you'll save big time seeing as you'll have plenty of powder left over and the brass in hand.
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.455_Hunter
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Bass Pro Shops just got in a shipment of Remington Express 210 gr. JSP. If your are near a BPS, it might be worth calling your local branch and see if they still have some. In Denver it was $52 a box, which is a lot, but better than no ammo at all...
mariodesmo
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Cabelas has some, at least they did as of yesterday.
Missionary
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Good afternoon
I grew up around reloaders and learned early on that if you are inclined to shoot a non everyday caliber you had better be a reloader.
BUT even better is to cast your own bullets.
I have never lacked ammo for my 41´s, 414 Supermag, 375 Supermag, 44-77, 50-70, 45-60, 38-50 .... and on goes the list. I have no regrets NOT being at the mercy of ammo producers.
So get yourself a used press, dies and componets. They are out there if you hunt a bit. Search 41 mag brass and you should find some...
I grew up around reloaders and learned early on that if you are inclined to shoot a non everyday caliber you had better be a reloader.
BUT even better is to cast your own bullets.
I have never lacked ammo for my 41´s, 414 Supermag, 375 Supermag, 44-77, 50-70, 45-60, 38-50 .... and on goes the list. I have no regrets NOT being at the mercy of ammo producers.
So get yourself a used press, dies and componets. They are out there if you hunt a bit. Search 41 mag brass and you should find some...
Calaveras Slim
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+1 with Missionary. Rolling your own and casting is the only way to go. Tho some live where casting in next to impossible, reloading is the answer.
The only ammo I buy is 45ACP +P and 44 Special that I use for carry. The rest I load myself and probably shoot 300-400 rounds a week.
Thanks for all the info. I do reload all my omy own ammo. However, this is not for me. I don't have a 41. I'm looking for ammo for a friend. Just wanted to steer him in the right direction. He doesn't shoot a lot so reloading would not be cost effective for him.
flop-shank
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Woodsy, you probably thought of it, but since you have a press, if he bought dies, bullets, brass, primers and powder, you could reload together and I'll bet eveything is more than paid for within 100 rounds. I'll bet reloading makes sense for even the casual .41 shooter when they have a friend and coach.
I agree with flop-shank, the .41 isn't an ideal choice for a non-reloading casual shooter given the high price and poor selection of factory ammo. Even factory bullets don't offer a good stable selection of choices and are getting too expensive, especially for casual shooting. Help him get started so he could reload his own, or do like I do and let him buy the dies and components that flop-shank listed and keep them in exchange for the labor of loading a few boxes for him.
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whats a good start load using 210 gr cast and Unique?
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Combat_Diver
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I use between 8-8.5 grs (going by memory as my log book is in the states) of Unique for a Spl load which for about 900fps from my 4" M58. Back in the mid 80s after language school on Fort Bragg (6 mos of 8 hour days learning Arabic), I would grab my 6" M57 and about 100rds every afternoon for some fun at the local sand pits. Later that evening I'll tap out (Lee Handloader) another 100 rds of 215gr LSWC/2400 in about 2 hours in the barracks. Long gone those days.
Check Natchez Shooters Supply also for ammo. (checked their all out also)
Ammo Handgun - Natchez Shooters Supplies
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Check Natchez Shooters Supply also for ammo. (checked their all out also)
Ammo Handgun - Natchez Shooters Supplies
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scorvers
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BLASPHEMY!!!!!!! The only powder to use in a cast bullet .41 load is 2400!!!!! 15.5gr and a CCI primer is what I use.
thomashoward
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I have some 2400 as well. I'll revisit my load-book for 2400 loads.I have 16 lbs of Unique so its my go to workhorse
There's been a couple of threads on light loads for the .41 in the reloading section lately.
Several guys use 7 gr. of Unique and a few use less, I stuck with 8.0 because it was much more accurate. But for real light casual plinking loads I use Bullseye.
Several guys use 7 gr. of Unique and a few use less, I stuck with 8.0 because it was much more accurate. But for real light casual plinking loads I use Bullseye.
Calaveras Slim
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Gotta admit I don't load so many 41mag lately cuz I got hooked on 41 Special. Bought the brass from a feller on the S&W Forum, head stamped 41 special by Starline. Used with W231 and either the 210JFP or 215SWC, great defensive round and just super for range work.
.41 Special is great, if you have a gun that is chambered for it. In a .41 mag it's not that great of an idea.
I've cut brass to several shorter lengths to make "Special", "Russian", "AE" and several odd sizes of ammo for testing. The benefit is that with shorter cases you get increased pressure so you can save powder by using less of it.
Remember that the only reason the other calibers have different lengths is to prevent the more powerful decendants from being chambered in older guns, so the .41 magnum could have been shorter to start with. But it wasn't, and with the longer chambers using shorter brass makes them less accurate and causes fouling in the exposed chamber area. The longer brass does allow the use of heavy bullets, but that could have been remedied with a different style of bullet, such as the "Keith" SWCs.
In my opinion the best way to get lighter loads for the .41 mag is to use powders intended for lighter loads in larger cases.
I've cut brass to several shorter lengths to make "Special", "Russian", "AE" and several odd sizes of ammo for testing. The benefit is that with shorter cases you get increased pressure so you can save powder by using less of it.
Remember that the only reason the other calibers have different lengths is to prevent the more powerful decendants from being chambered in older guns, so the .41 magnum could have been shorter to start with. But it wasn't, and with the longer chambers using shorter brass makes them less accurate and causes fouling in the exposed chamber area. The longer brass does allow the use of heavy bullets, but that could have been remedied with a different style of bullet, such as the "Keith" SWCs.
In my opinion the best way to get lighter loads for the .41 mag is to use powders intended for lighter loads in larger cases.
bigheaddaddy
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I just loaded 100 rounds of Berry 210 grain plated bullets using 8.5 grains of Unique with CCI LP primers. It's a sweet accurate load that shoots well out of my Blackhawk (6.5") and Redhawk (5.5"). Not counting the cost of the brass, I have around $12.00 in a box of 50 rounds. My 41's are my favorite revolvers, but I simply couldn't afford to shoot them if I didn't reload.
A local hardware store had 3 boxes of Remington 210 grain SWC for $37.29 each. I bought 2 of them and may go back and get the other box this week. I can always use the extra brass.
I'm going to try either 2400 or W231 on the next rounds I load with either the Berry 210 grain plated bullets or maybe Magnus 215 grain lead bullets.
If you live anywhere near Charlotte, NC, Hyatt Gun Shop has a well stocked reloading section, and last week thay had plenty .41 bullets (Berry, Speer, Sierra), and a full stock of powder and primers. Their prices are a little on the high side, but I guess it's the price we pay to have a good in stock selection.
A local hardware store had 3 boxes of Remington 210 grain SWC for $37.29 each. I bought 2 of them and may go back and get the other box this week. I can always use the extra brass.
I'm going to try either 2400 or W231 on the next rounds I load with either the Berry 210 grain plated bullets or maybe Magnus 215 grain lead bullets.
If you live anywhere near Charlotte, NC, Hyatt Gun Shop has a well stocked reloading section, and last week thay had plenty .41 bullets (Berry, Speer, Sierra), and a full stock of powder and primers. Their prices are a little on the high side, but I guess it's the price we pay to have a good in stock selection.
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