Anyone notice this issue with their Shield?

[kris7047th]

It does not happen without a mag. After I lubed it was hit and miss with a mag in place, and then I really have to use force. I suspect the mag is causing it to happen, but I am with Lee on this. I just think it's a non issue.

 

[kris7047th]

I can make my 25 year old Colt Series 80 do it.

I can also balance a spoon on my nose.

lol. I can't do that !

 

[offensive]

Funny thing is, I put a light coat of oil on the barrel of every semi-auto I own. Now I know I would not have noticed this on my Shield at all. This is a common way to lube up a 1911, especially with tighter tolerances. I think when it comes to poly guns, people are used to loose tolerances and lube as little as possible.

ETA: Those plastic white dot inserts have a tendency to fall out. I just let them fall out and use good old fashion paint.

I do the same thing, I am going to try this tonight on my .45 full size M&P when I get home. It may have 250rds through it.
I have a set of Trijicon HD's on order for it, so I am not to worried about the insert.

Have you tried lubing the barrel to see if it still occurs? If not, THAT is something to mention to S&W themselves. They are going to need repeated feedback of the same "issue" if they are going to "fix" it.

After I lubed mine, had no issues at all with this happening.

It's in the Owner's Manual as a lube point......helps to read the manual once in awhile.

It's also a know fact that if you get into hand to hand combat with someone that is using a semi-auto against you the easiest way to disable the gun is to push the front of the slide back just a little. The trick is to do it quick enough before it goes BANG.

I think this is a "Chicken Little" issue...the sky is not falling and the gun will function as intended if properly maintained and used as intended. If it failed to go into battery while firing then maybe I would worry about it. Coming out of battery by manually forcing it to do so is a non issue. A gun should always be carried in a proper fitting holster and this is just one example of the reason why it is important.

I am sure the guy who sent his gun to S&W for this issue will find they say the same thing. If he is uncomfortable with the gun he will have no problem selling it.......
Just my $0.02..........

I have to agree with this enitrely

 

[DocGlock]

I haven't fired my Shield yet, but I just tested this. Mine will stay out of battery too, even with the mag removed. So much for the thoughts of the mag being out of spec or the mag spring being too tight. Also, I have cleaned and lubed it. Am I worried about it? NO.

 

[Lost Lake]

I haven't fired my Shield yet, but I just tested this. Mine will stay out of battery too, even with the mag removed. So much for the thoughts of the mag being out of spec or the mag spring being too tight. Also, I have cleaned and lubed it. Am I worried about it? NO.

Okay Doc, you are an armorer so you can figure this out. Is it maybe due to the double spring recoil assembly? Maybe a tad stiffer spring would solve the issue?

 

[shipwreck]

I haven't fired my Shield yet, but I just tested this. Mine will stay out of battery too, even with the mag removed. So much for the thoughts of the mag being out of spec or the mag spring being too tight. Also, I have cleaned and lubed it. Am I worried about it? NO.

Its a square shaped slide and barrel. Tons of guns are like this.

 

[paragon1]

The rib that on the slide that sits on the first round in the magazine is hanging up on the top round due to the tension. I bet if you polished this and then lubed it it would go away.

No matter what the manuals say, I have always lightly greased my barrels where they make contact with the slide.

 

[MP1SG]

Has this "problem" effected any shield as far as reliability? functioning? I will say NO as I have not heard of to many functioning probles with the Shield, Other than Shooter/Ammo induced.
Shoot the weapon and have fun.

 

[Lost Lake]

Has this "problem" effected any shield as far as reliability?

Yes, the OP removed his Shield from his pocket and the gun would not fire.

functioning?

With the slide moved out of battery, it doesn't matter if it is due to a holster, bump against an object or whatever, the gun does NOT return the slide to lock-up and will not fire.

I will say NO as I have not heard of to many functioning probles with the Shield, Other than Shooter/Ammo induced.
Shoot the weapon and have fun.

None of mine do this, but for a gun that I will carry on my person that is subject to being bumped and moved, if I have a gun that doesn't return itself to a state that it is able to function, I won't carry it.

This isn't much different than a loose safety that puts itself on sometimes. It's one more thing that sometimes happens and now you have to be sure to check the slide every time you draw the gun.

No thanks.

 

[crracer_712]

Without seeing the video, I would guess you are are talking about the slide moving back slightly when hosltering?

My thumb is on the back of the slide while hosltering a gun, no matter which one it is. Never had a problem with the slide coming out of battery if you don't give it a chance in the first place.

 

[Lost Lake]

Without seeing the video, I would guess you are are talking about the slide moving back slightly when hosltering?

My thumb is on the back of the slide while hosltering a gun, no matter which one it is. Never had a problem with the slide coming out of battery if you don't give it a chance in the first place.

That's what the video shows. A guy pulled his Shield and the slide was stuck back. He shows the slide sticking back time and again as he moves it. Now others are saying their Shield does the same thing.

I checked my M&P's and they don't. If I move the slide back 1/4" it goes forward on its own.

 

[TNSmithfan]

I checked mine and was amazed by how little rearward pressure was required to cause this issue. Even if I holster the gun with my thumb on the back of the slide, whos to say that a little bump here or there througout the day will not be enough to knock the gun out of battery.

I would sure hate to need the gun to go bang and only get a click.

Has anyone heard anything from Smith and Wesson on the issue?

 

[Nakanokalronin]

I checked mine and was amazed by how little rearward pressure was required to cause this issue. Even if I holster the gun with my thumb on the back of the slide, whos to say that a little bump here or there througout the day will not be enough to knock the gun out of battery.

I would sure hate to need the gun to go bang and only get a click.

Has anyone heard anything from Smith and Wesson on the issue?

I doubt anyone will know about what causes it until S&W has a Shield in hand and then returns it back to the customer. They're not going to diagnose it over the phone, but hopefully they either get enough of them in for this issue or just go out to the factory, grab a bunch and see how many do it right off the assembly line. Are there any REPs on this forum that could be contacted?

 

[K1500]

1. Mine does this too.
2. IMO it is a complete non-issue.

Many autos do this. If you carry in a manner that the slide is likely to be partially retracted you should either carry a revolver or re-evaluate your method of carry. This happens on 1911's, Glocks, AR-15's, etc.

 

[dts]

My Shield does it and I'm not concerned. My Ed Brown did this to, when new. If S&W finds this is an issue and wants to fix all Shields like this, fine with me. If not, still fine with me.

If S&W wants the Shields back for a fix, good! perhaps they'll send us free mag or certificate for a free mag!

 

[Aahzz]

Non-issue IMO. Yes, I can make mine do it, but it takes deliberate force. It's NOT going to happen by accident, takes way too much effort to balance it there.

 

[OpsMgr]

I'll have to check this on mine with a full mag - Just picked it up today for Pete's sake. Doesn't seem to be an issue with an empty mag on mine.

Plan to clean all of the factory gunk out of it and make a trip to the range on or before Saturday. Gotta love a new pistola...

 

[IllinoisCCW]

I own 8 M&Ps...two of which are Shields in 9 & 40. ALL of them do it. NEVER had an issue and NEVER noticed it until now. NEVER had any issues with them . But I ALWAYS place my thumb over the back end of the slide when holstering. It's a non-issue. I don't plan on sending them all back to smith. Next topic please.

 

[shipwreck]

I own 8 M&Ps...two of which are Shields in 9 & 40. ALL of them do it. NEVER had an issue and NEVER noticed it until now. NEVER had any issues with them . But I ALWAYS place my thumb over the back end of the slide when holstering. It's a non-issue. I don't plan on sending them all back to smith. Next topic please.

I agree. This whole thing is cascading on several forums and its just ridiculous

 

[Dohmein]

I own 5 M&P's. The only ones I can get to do this is the Shield. I checked 2 in the shop today and they do it. 3 of my friends who have them do it so I suppose this is something S&W knows about? Non issue for me either way.


Whats with the mags being hell to get in when fully loaded? If I download one its fine - a break in issue?