Anyone notice this issue with their Shield?

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Whats with the mags being hell to get in when fully loaded? If I download one its fine - a break in issue?[/QUOTE]

It's a break in issue. Both of mine did the same thing.

Did you hear whether there was a fix for the battery issue or is Smith stating its within acceptable specs...their usual response.
 
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My Shield slide when chambered and magazine loaded stays open when I pull the slide back slightly.


The magazine is really tight to seat when you have a round chambered and I thought there must be vertical pressure applied to chambered round preventing it to return to battery.

I removed the magazine pulled back the slide maybe 1/8th-1/4inch and it came back to battery.

It is obvious when you seat the magazine the gun is super tight.

I really don't see this as an issue. I would rather the gun be tight than loose.

Russ
 
Found this link from a forum to the other forum about an out of battery issue with the Shield. Can anyone make their Shield do what's in the link? First post has a video of it BTW.

ETA: To keep in-line with forum rules, I have deleted the link but I think enough people know what the issue is by now.

Kind of makes me glad I'm on the waiting list for the second batch.

ETA: Members at the other forum I got the link from have the same thing happen to them so it seems it's not just a few of them. Not sure how much of an issue this is but its something S&W should be made aware of.

Now, let's not all let this get out of hand.

First, it has been taught by Massad Ayoob and others for decades that when holstering, you put your thumb over the hammer or the back of the slide to prevent the pistol from opening while holstering.

Secondly, this "condition" can be manipulated to occur on almost any pistol.

Thirdly, in the video shown by the seemingly hapless novice on the other site, he can, without any effort correct the very condition he complains of by merely closing the slide, and without any undue effort, it appears. I am far more concerned about him blowing a hole in his own hand since he repeatedly violates Rule 2 (never point the pistol at anything you do not wish to destroy) and also demonstrates to all that a proper press-check using the slide grasping fish scale grooves is apparently beyond his training at this point.

Fourthly, I believe he said this occurred while in his pocket. Huh? It is unclear if it "just happened," while in his pocket, or upon holstering, or when he "bumped" the pistol. Everyone knows you do NOT EVER re-holster into a pocket holster while the holster is in the pocket. You take out the holster, insert the pistol, and while re-holstering, you make sure the slide does not come out of batter by putting your thumb over the back of the slide or hammer. Then, you put pistol and holster into your pocket as a unit.

Fifthly, if this gent's pocket holster is that tight, he either needs to UNLOAD and do between 50 and 100 forceful insertions and withdrawals from the holster; or, if it his holster is still too tight, then into the trash it goes and he should buy a decent pocket holster.

Finally, this fellow needs to pipe down along with the minions that have followed him on that "other" site and stop referring to this as a "design error" or defective condition. I am sure that these "wanna-be pistol designers" have much experience in the design of a pistol, but there seems to be a lack of ability to show it since there is much hand-wringing in trying to figure out the cause of this "condition" these birds have identified as a condition that S&W needs to be aware of. It is what it is - a condition that for the most part can be manipulated on many different makes and models of pistols.

There is a reason that you do not "ride the slide" when loading a round. Let it go full speed so the slide will not be left partially open. There is just no reason to intentionally put the pistol in this condition and then claim it is a defect. Now, if a little bump on the back of the slide with the open hand will not cause it to close, then fine, send it back. But, as this gent demonstrates in his video, he can at once create the condition he complains of and then immediately correct it. S&W should get kudos for having a safe enough pistol that this guy does not blow his hand off during his little video.

There is no need to get oxygen. Relax and enjoy your S&W Shield.

Mine is 100% and I am not worried at all that it can be manipulated into doing exactly what a great number of other pistols can be manipulated into doing.
 
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I've been saying this all day. The "experts" just ignore the few of us that are the voice of reason so they can continue with this nonsense... I predict this stupidity will continue....
 
Now, let's not all let this get out of hand. There is no need to get oxygen. Relax and enjoy your S&W Shield.

Here, Here... I'm done worrying about it. I still like my new little gun :D & if S&W has something to say they will let us know, until then just enjoy our possible handgun of the year!
 
It's in the Owner's Manual as a lube point......helps to read the manual once in awhile.

It's also a known fact that if you get into hand to hand combat with someone that is using a semi-auto against you the easiest way to disable the gun is to push the front of the slide back just a little. The trick is to do it quick enough before it goes BANG.

I think this is a "Chicken Little" issue...the sky is not falling and the gun will function as intended if properly maintained and used as intended. If it failed to go into battery while firing then maybe I would worry about it. Coming out of battery by manually forcing it to do so is a non issue. A gun should always be carried in a proper fitting holster and this is just one example of the reason why it is important.

I am sure the guy who sent his gun to S&W for this issue will find they say the same thing. If he is uncomfortable with the gun he will have no problem selling it.......
Just my $0.02..........

Couldn't have said it better."Chicken Little"issue. Combat Training 101. Grab slide,push back and it's disabled.

Sounds like the "other side" is starting a jealous attack. Surprised it took this long...
 
I've been saying this all day. The "experts" just ignore the few of us that are the voice of reason so they can continue with this nonsense... I predict this stupidity will continue....

Well I posted this here since it's the source of all things S&W. I'm trying to figure it out without even having one in front of me. :p Hopefully if you read my individual posts, I wasn't trying to start a storm of nonsense. ;)

I'm more interested in what S&W will tell the OP in that other forum weather it be "not an issue" or something else. I still am glad I waited awhile either way since we know how first runs can be. IMO, this is probably a non-issue like I stated before but it's always good to be aware.
 
I checked mine and was amazed by how little rearward pressure was required to cause this issue. Even if I holster the gun with my thumb on the back of the slide, whos to say that a little bump here or there througout the day will not be enough to knock the gun out of battery.

I would sure hate to need the gun to go bang and only get a click.

Has anyone heard anything from Smith and Wesson on the issue?

wow this is way way out of hand, Simply by drawing the weapon out of the holster would seem to correct this problem (even if this is a problem)espically if you carry IWB. IMO this is a NON ISSUE like other have said this happens to almost all semi autos. My Kimber Pro carry II does this. the gent in the video purposely tried to induce a stoppage of course the weapon is going to be out of battery if you pull the slide reward ward.
lets let it go and enjoy this fine American made weapon
 
I just field stripped mine and just as I thought, the extractor hook & spring are tight and with a round in the chamber it will hang. Without a round in the chamber it is not an issue. If you remove the barrel and slide around up under the extractor you can feel how tight the fit and spring is. This would be a problem to me if it happened with out a round in the path but to me it is just a tight gun that needs more rounds through it. Personally, I would rather have a gun that ejects everything and would obviously loosen up with use to a gun that would go away with use. Ether way, if it continues and I feel it is an issue, I will contact S&W and have it addressed. The gun is just too accurate and concealable for me to throw it out for something I believe will work itself out with more use. Kahr people are willing to accept that the instructions from the manufacture state you need to run 200 or more rounds through the gun to make it reliable and I never understood that. I guess we all have to consider what we find acceptable and stop listening to what others have to say. I for one will give the gun a chance but that is my comfort zone. You need to decide if this is enough to sway you from all the positive comments we have read so far. Just my .02 and I will shut-up now. Do what feel is right for you as it is your life and safety and you are the only one that has to answer to yourself.
Frank.

You are correct, saw the video pull out my CC including my PPS, the extractor on the PPS has enough tension that I can move it with my finger, forget it with the SHIELD its way to hard. The SHIELD extractor claw slides up the cartridge if you slide it back with a round in the chamber, when releasing the slide slowly with the cartridge clamp on to it, makes it difficult. Worst case scenario a lighter spring should solve this issue, some wear may clear that issue. We should not have any major concerns.

Watch this video at 7:20 minutes

FRE install.wmv - YouTube

For those of you that are concerned and need to get rid of the gun, I buy defective M&P SHIELDS due to extractors, need two of them my buying price is $299.00 if interested.:). I wont pay anymore for a defective SHIELD:D:D
 
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Another definition of *expert* ... x + spurt = drip under pressure :rolleyes:

They just found an excuse to hate because they were looking for one, as sorry/ridiculous as it is.
 
Please be patient as I am flooded replying to PM's with people wanting to sell their SHIELDS :D:D

You people crack me up!!!
 
Fot those of you that are concerned and need to get rid of the gun, I buy defective M&P SHIELDS due to extractors, need two of them my buying price is $299.00 if interested.:). I wont pay anymore for a defective SHIELD:D:D[/QUOTE


LOL. I will also buy all your defective Shields for $299.....then turn around and sell for $499 each.

IT'S NOT A DEFECT. Get over it!!!!!!!!
 
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I have been sitting here playing with my shield. Here is what I have found out. When i put the 7 rd mag in and manually move the slide back it will not go into battery sometimes, not always. When i remove a rd from the mag and move the slide back it goes back into battery everytime. When i use the 8 rd mag fully loaded and try this it goes back into battery everytime. Seems to me that the 7 rd mag being so tight when inserted into the gun is the problem. Maybe, check it out see what you think. I can load 8 rds into the 8 rounder with my fingers, but CANNOT get 7 rds into the 7 rounder with my fingers have to use a uplula to get the 7th rd in.
 
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Are you saying the barrel needs a light film of oil on it to operate?

Love my M&P's, but I'd expect better reliability. This is really going to excite the wolves looking for a weakness in the Shield.

If the tolerances are so tight between the barrel and the slide that it will hang up unless a film of oil is there, what happens when a speck of sand or dirt gets in that gap?

My M&P's don't hang, but I haven't tried wiping them down with denatured alcohol or anything and trying them completely dry.
Actually 2 of the 7 places you should lubricate with one drop of oil are the front and rear of the barrel (consult your owners manual) when the weapon is fired the slide moves across both the front and rear of the barrel, and this movement causes friction and without some lubrication causes wear on both parts, a slight film of oil is much smaller than sand or dirt and allows the free movement of the slide and also will catch such debris so when you do clean your weapon they will be easily removed!
 
I have been sitting here playing with my shield. Here is what I have found out. When i put the 7 rd mag in and manually move the slide back it will not go into battery sometimes, not always. When i remove a rd from the mag and move the slide back it goes back into battery everytime. When i use the 8 rd mag and try this it goes back into battery everytime. Seems to me that the 7 rd mag being so tight when inserted into the gun is the problem. Maybe, check it out see what you think.

I don't have a 7 rd mag...traded it for a 8 rd. mine still does it. Like I said in a previous post all my M&Ps do it. Whether I have a full or partial mag all I have to do is push the slide back and it does not go back to full battery. It does need some force to do it but it's not a defect. I have holstered and unholstered my M&Ps 1000s of times and have never had this problem...I have to manually and consciously force it replicate it. If your holster forces your firearm out of battery...YOUR HOLSTER IS THE PROBLEM NOT YOUR FIREARM!!!
 
...If your holster forces your firearm out of battery...YOUR HOLSTER IS THE PROBLEM NOT YOUR FIREARM!!!

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...For those of you that are concerned and need to get rid of the gun, I buy defective M&P SHIELDS due to extractors, need two of them my buying price is $299.00 if interested.:). I wont pay anymore for a defective SHIELD:D:D

I would certainly get in on this too. Especially for anyone that is in-state in FL. :p :D

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