This is what happens when gutless politicians grant doctors control over every aspect of our lives. I'm not blaming the doctors, because they are singularly focused on the patient...we will all be broke and living in tin shacks as long as there is one 90 year in heavens waiting room being fed through a straw that needs to be protected from the rest of us.
APARRANTLY THE DEATH RATE IS DOUBLE WHAT THEY PREDICTED IN THE US!
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susieqz
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paradise , sats don't mean much.
how did you do in university?
how did you do in grad school?
Uh-oh.... now you've done it!
Better. All 99 except English. To easy. I didn't even get a high school diploma. LOL. Got kicked out of English class my senior year.
2 month job loss is now 36,000,000 and growing, but not growing as fast as desperation. I haven't seen the tally for business failures yet. "Were all in this together"....yea, right.
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susieqz
Absent Comrade
if the cdc didn't screw up, we wouldn't need lock downs.
the proper way to handle this is test/trace/ isolate.
only infectious people would be isolated for 14 days.
this country should have been able to provide tests, but we haven't.
the proper way to handle this is test/trace/ isolate.
only infectious people would be isolated for 14 days.
this country should have been able to provide tests, but we haven't.
Puller
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No Lockdown Iowa and So Dakota would have far fewer cases IF testing had been done early in nursing homes and meat processing plants. Those are our hot spots. Two Tyson plants close to me have had no mass testing. It is to start on Saturday.
Just some misc facts local to me.
MN is a lockdown state, but Nobles County (a neighboring county to me) has about 900 confirmed cases. Population 21,000+
My county has had 6 confirmed cases, Population 17,000+
The difference? Nobles County has a big JBS pork plant. Testing there was only done in the past couple of weeks.
Anyone working in or having any contact with the meat processing industry is dancing with the devil.
Just some misc facts local to me.
MN is a lockdown state, but Nobles County (a neighboring county to me) has about 900 confirmed cases. Population 21,000+
My county has had 6 confirmed cases, Population 17,000+
The difference? Nobles County has a big JBS pork plant. Testing there was only done in the past couple of weeks.
Anyone working in or having any contact with the meat processing industry is dancing with the devil.
Utah you had to be an essential worker to be on the highway, started right after I SLC. My brother stayed there for a while after i left and wa issyed paperwork. S. Dakota had a big outbreak un Sioux City meet packing plant in so wrong again
I know exactly what outbreaks you are referring to.
Smithland in Sioux Falls, SD, and the Tyson plant in Dakota City, NE(Sioux City, IA area)
Those would have happened lockdown or not. See my reference above to the JBS plant in locked down MN.
Folks who need simple answers to complex questions fall for misleading graphics like these consistently, and pass them along, unfortunately.I agree
Correlation does not imply causation; population totals, geographic density, total incidents versus per capita; testing or lack thereof, how much and what kind -- all play major roles in outcomes and understanding.
In this case, two separate graphics, unrelated to each other, combined to incorrectly imply that the lower follows from the upper.
A cursory look at current numbers shows it's inaccurate...
Link to Fox News' Coronavirus main page, including map to state-by-state numbers: Coronavirus | Fox News
Just no. Approaching 85,000 today as of this post. Ignoring tens of thousands of American deaths as if they mean nothing is a shame.
ParadiseRoad
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...two Associate of Applied Science Degrees with special distinction for grade point average from what is now the southern campus of Colorado State University...
...pretty sure my Scholastic Aptitude Tests would have allowed me entry into any University in the country...
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I heard that people can show negative on a Covid test and won't have symptoms or be shedding or spreading the virus to other people but they can still have it inside them during its incubation period. Then the virus matures a little bit later and makes them sick and contagious and the whole time they thought for sure they didn't have it.
Those numbers are being crunched right now and it's stomach turning. Like the virus and its specific health impact, we're still too much at the front end of this to really understand the scope, but the outlook is bad:
Study: Over 100,000 Small Businesses Have Closed Forever As Result Of Coronavirus Pandemic | The Daily Caller
Link is to Daily Caller working from a Washington Post summary of a study conducted by the University of Illinois, Harvard Business School, Harvard University and the University of Chicago.
From the study: Already 100,000 small businesses permanently closed; it's expected that in the near term 2% total small business in the U.S. will be lost from this.
That's possible -- it's a question of the sensitivity of the test. One of the most significant knowledge-gap issues in the pandemic is an abundance of tests in play right now, many of which aren't established or particularly valid in their sensitivity or specificity for this particular virus. That can account for the scenario you heard about.
Completely correct.
Absolutely. There are many false negatives. Best friend of my Wife "tested negative" and is still at home after 4 weeks of been sicker than sick! The tests can miss certain strains of the virus.
She was sick for 2 weeks and it took two weeks to even get her test results back, She got tested right away as she is in the Medical field.
Puller
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