At least 8 dead in shooting at Indianapolis FedEx facility

[smithra_66]

This is obviously a tragedy, and might have been less so if somebody had been in a position to fight back effectively with a firearm. Too bad nobody was, and a guy who tried apparently didn’t succeed.

But let’s cut all this pseudo-historical nonsense. There never was any happy time in this country when everybody freely carried guns everywhere. In fact, there have never been as many people carrying personal defense guns in as many places legally as nowadays.

There are definitely more people carrying now than ever, however the percentage of people who carry vs. the overall population is probably much lower now than in times past.

 

[Ziggy2525]

...and the OP is bringing publicity to this because...???

Because it’s an internet forum and that’s what internet forums are for? Just a guess.

 

[Iframe32s]

...let’s cut all this pseudo-historical nonsense...

Did I miss something? I just re-read all the previous posts and didn't notice anything related to that.

 

[RGNewell]

Smith & Wesson, Don't leave home without it.

 

[Ziggy2525]

You have that right. You don't have to let anyone into your home or onto your private property. Unless it is a business meant to accommodate the public. In that case you can't use race or any one of a half dozen other "protected" classes as a reason to discriminate.

Yep - what’s that old sign “No shirt. No shoes. No Service.” Their property. Their rules.

 

[dockmurgw]

I'll just sit tight and wait to learn about the shooter, then attacked everything that created him.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Well, it was apparently a rifle, and it’s hard to load packages with a slung M4 . . .

I nearly inadvertently spit my coffee on the TV this morning!

Why should a law-abiding person EVER have to "retrieve" a legal firearm from their vehicle? In particular, with (extremely) LIMITED exceptions, how can a person with a LTC be prevented from carrying their personal property in areas arbitrarily declared "Gun Free Zones" by businesses, employers, etc., when that is exactly the intended purpose of their license/permit; to potentially level the playing field in such a situation when they're outside of their home, whether in or on public or private property? It's even illegal in some of these socialist republics to leave a firearm in a vehicle.

The right to self-defense is that; a Right! Imagine implementing a policy prohibiting wheelchairs or service dogs ANYWHERE. The arm is an emergency LIFE SUPPORT system!

There needs to be a class-action lawsuit for obvious civil rights violations concerning these arbitrary "Gun Free Zones." I'm sure it would be a priority for a 13 person Supreme Court...right?

Maybe I'm I just a "Deplorable" knuckle-dragging Neanderthal...but how I long for the times of relative sanity in the country of my youth well before this Socialist Revolution.

 

[Iframe32s]

Yep - what’s that old sign “No shirt. No shoes. No Service.” Their property. Their rules.

Again, only to an extent. Shirts & shoes are not Constitutionally protected individual freedoms that have been purchased with other peoples' sacrifices.

And the government, (in a myriad of statutes, codes, regulations, etc.) from the federal to local level, can and does dictate what I can and can't do on/with my private property, and how it may and may not be done.

If anyone thinks they can do whatever they wish on their private property I suggest they get educated.

 

[moosedog]

Almost everyone recognizes that there is a big polarization and problem of paranoia and hate in our country. Last November the intensity of this movement was fortified and solidified.
Cities have been burning for over a year now and there is no real attempt
to stop it. Media bans some and promotes others. People are loosing it and it's going to get worse.

 

[The Norseman]

Empowering the Media

My Prayers go out to all involved in that Senseless Incident.

Also, am I getting Stupider reading this Thread, too much
speculation. No more going to this Thread, peace out.

 

[jdh]

Well, it was apparently a rifle, and it’s hard to load packages with a slung M4 . . .

Can’t all that much harder than filling sandbags then using them to build a bunker with a slung M16.

 

[smithra_66]

Absolutely a problem because, like BC38 mentioned, race is a federally protected class. So is religion - you can’t hang a sign outside your business that says “No Lutherans.” It’s from the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Point out the federal law or SCOTUS ruling that makes a concealed carrier a protected class. It exactly the opposite. SCOTUS has said there can be limitations on carrying a weapon.

Yes exactly. And that's the problem!

 

[Muss Muggins]

Can’t all that much harder than filling sandbags then using them to build a bunker with a slung M16.

Yeah, but most of the FedEx people probably haven’t been thru basic . . .

 

[vt_shooter]

Let's keep these in perspective too: Literally a few hundred people per year die in "mass shootings." Out of a country of 333 Million.

Of course the media and anti-gun crowd are going to over-cover these types of events, but "mass shootings" in the entire country per year make up a couple months of simple handgun violence in a single city such as Chicago (which gets zero coverage).

Very true. It's estimated that about 685 Americans die each day from medical mistakes, and another 1,000 Americans die each day from tobacco usage. The media could fill our heads every day with that if they wanted to, but that doesn't fit their agenda.

 

[Iframe32s]

Well, it was apparently a rifle, and it’s hard to load packages with a slung M4 . . .

Unfortunately, where I am the rifle retriever would be considered a villain.

My point was/is once a person jumps through all the governmental hoops in order to legally exercise their God-given Right they shouldn't be put on notice they will be considered a criminal for where they carry it (concealed sidearm).

e.g.; when an otherwise law-abiding person decides to stop and check their P.O. box while performing errands, which law should they violate...carrying concealed onto Postal property...or leaving an unattended firearm in the vehicle?

No honest person should ever be put into that type of situation for exercising a RIGHT. Un-necessary & ridiculous.

Anyway, I can easily get into a argument with non-gun owners, so will say no more on this topic in order to prevent being disciplined by the moderators.

Have at it...God bless. Out for now.

 

[dockmurgw]

So I just read this:
The shooter was identified as 19-year-old Brandon Scott Hole of Indiana. The facility has a lot of Sikh's working there, authorities are looking into the possibility that they were targeted.

 

[ditrina]

Thank you all for your input ( I think! )

We are done, people are DEAD.. at little respect if you don't' mind.