Bad Westerns

[crazyphil]

John's gone. Clint's 86. What are the chances we will ever see another
great western?

 

[Ron AZ]

I agree, that one too sucked.

Eastwood's pasta westerns were: The Good, The Bad and the Ugly, A Fistful of Dollars and I forget the name of the last one.

For A Few Dollars More

 

[the ringo kid]

John's gone. Clint's 86. What are the chances we will ever see another
great western?

The chances are gettin slim and slim'er.

 

[DeadAye]

The one with John Wayne, Dean Martin, and Ozzie Nelson's kid Ricky....
Ahhhhh yes - The Sons of Katie Elder

 

[FPrice]

The one with John Wayne, Dean Martin, and Ozzie Nelson's kid Ricky....
Ahhhhh yes - The Sons of Katie Elder

With Ricky Nelson that would have been "Rio Bravo". And that definitely does not belong on the "bad Westerns" list.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Pat Garett and Bill the Kid was butchered by the studio in the theatrical/ TV version, Sam Peckenpaw hated it. The Director's Cut totally changes the tone of the movie.

While the movie certainly dragged, The Murder of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford was closely following the well researched book of the same name by Robert Hansen. ( Unless a totally different movie of the same name is being discused).

 

[THE PILGRIM]

The other night, Saw the last half of one that I don't recall ever hearing of.
Appaloosa - starring Marlon Brando.
I need to see it all from the beginning.
Anybody ever see this one?

 

[Cardboard_killer]

John's gone. Clint's 86. What are the chances we will ever see another
great western?

To a great extent, science fiction movies have replaced the western. Both have to do with "frontier" life, and modern kids (the generation that drives movie production) are closer to space flight than to the "west" of our great grandfathers.

 

[walkinghorse]

The Magnificant Seven, new version, is being advertised now for release in IMAX. Judging from the trailers being shown, it will be a stinker despite the stars in it.
Westerns seem to because lost art ?

 

[susieqz]

the novel APPALOOSA by robert parker is super.
the climatic gunfight scene is one of the best i've read.
haven't seen the movie.

 

[Maccabeus]

Well, I guess I don't know what a good western is, based on what passes for "worst" here.



I grew up watching occasional episodes of the Lone Ranger, Rawhide, Bonanza, and other TV shows, but none of them really captured my attention.



Went to see Silverado when it came out and loved it! That sold me on Westerns. A friend introduced me to Eastwood's Spaghetti Westerns, and while a totally different feel, I loved those, too. Then I moved on to Clint's other movies and even found some enjoyment in Young Guns along the way.



Still have copies of all of those on aging VHS tapes, too.

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[comtedeloach]

The one with John Wayne, Dean Martin, and Ozzie Nelson's kid Ricky....
Ahhhhh yes - The Sons of Katie Elder

No, that's the wrong one. It's "Rio Bravo".



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[comtedeloach]

For a sci-if take on westerns, the short lived TV show "Firefly" is worth a look. It certainly deserves better than it got. It also got a closure theatrical movie "Serenity".


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[susieqz]

have you guys seen john wayne's early movies?
he was just a hollywood pretty boy.

 

[FPrice]

The Magnificant Seven, new version, is being advertised now for release in IMAX. Judging from the trailers being shown, it will be a stinker despite the stars in it.
Westerns seem to because lost art ?

I think that's more of a case of movies telling an actual story becoming a lost art. Instead of the interaction between two or more people and the resolution there of, movie makers depend more upon the "personality" of the actors and increasing violent and visual action scenes.

 

[Onomea]

Hey, Ringo! What's with the pan of Shane? (Probably the all time classic Hollywood Western in Japan, I'd wager.)

 

[Cardboard_killer]

I think that's more of a case of movies telling an actual story becoming a lost art.

I think there were plenty of stinkers in the 30-50s. And movie stars were movie stars back then, too. John Wayne was in 70 movies between 1930 and 1940. They used to crank out a movie every two months, and most of them were forgotten two months after release. Movies haven't gotten worse, we just forget about all the crappy ones.

 

[rockquarry]

Django Unchained: I think it was intended as a western, but I'm not sure. Watched all of it I could stand. Terrible movie, much worse than even the spaghetti westerns and they were in a bad movie class of their own.

 

[the ringo kid]

To a great extent, science fiction movies have replaced the western. Both have to do with "frontier" life, and modern kids (the generation that drives movie production) are closer to space flight than to the "west" of our great grandfathers.

Most modern kids do not have a clue what a great movie is? or what a classic movie is? To them, the fast and furious collection are classics.

 

[the ringo kid]

No, that's the wrong one. It's "Rio Bravo".



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Deadeye was in jest on the wrong title. Anyone seeing Rio Bravo would never get it crossed with Katie Elder.