Ball and Caps?
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29aholic
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I have several 2nd Gen Colt 1851 Navies. Dont shoot them often, but do shoot them. They are actually the last guns I shot.
During the Civil War????? LOL
Nope. I shoot cap & ball revolvers.
In fact I not only shoot them, but also compete with them at 25 and 50 meter MLAIC.
No originals though.
I use a Pedersoli Remingnton replica.
Here shooting at the 50 meter range.
And here I am doing the spider man act again.
In fact I not only shoot them, but also compete with them at 25 and 50 meter MLAIC.
No originals though.
I use a Pedersoli Remingnton replica.
Here shooting at the 50 meter range.
And here I am doing the spider man act again.
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29aholic
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I am not that old
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Ivan the Butcher
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I have a bunch! I stick with 44's and buy the same size balls for all of them .457! I prefer real black powder to substitutes. I NEVER want to get shot by one!
Ivan
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Easy Black Powder Cleanup
If you're willing to change your cleaning methods, you may change your mind about the "Pain" involved in cleaning Black Powder firearms.
All you need is some Windex multi-surface cleaner with Vinegar. Note: With Vinegar, not ammonia! Mix the Windex in a 50/50 ratio with water and you have the perfect cleaning solution! No boiling water, no expensive wonder cleaners from the gun store! A suggestion: Place the mix in a spray bottle and go to town!
Here's a link with a little more discussion on this: Muzzle Loader Cleaning-Windex With Vinegar - HuntingNet.com Forums
While I've never personally used this method to clean a cap & ball revolver; I've used it successfully, many times to clean my Colt Single Action Army revolver in .45 Colt after shooting black powder. I just wish I still had my SAA's.
Here's what you need to look for if you're willing to try this.
Best of luck with your new cleaning routine!
If you're willing to change your cleaning methods, you may change your mind about the "Pain" involved in cleaning Black Powder firearms.
All you need is some Windex multi-surface cleaner with Vinegar. Note: With Vinegar, not ammonia! Mix the Windex in a 50/50 ratio with water and you have the perfect cleaning solution! No boiling water, no expensive wonder cleaners from the gun store! A suggestion: Place the mix in a spray bottle and go to town!
Here's a link with a little more discussion on this: Muzzle Loader Cleaning-Windex With Vinegar - HuntingNet.com Forums
While I've never personally used this method to clean a cap & ball revolver; I've used it successfully, many times to clean my Colt Single Action Army revolver in .45 Colt after shooting black powder. I just wish I still had my SAA's.
Here's what you need to look for if you're willing to try this.
Best of luck with your new cleaning routine!
Ivan the Butcher
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Hey Kurusu, nice shooting!
Ivan
Ivan
If you're willing to change your cleaning methods, you may change your mind about the "Pain" involved in cleaning Black Powder firearms.
All you need is some Windex multi-surface cleaner with Vinegar. Note: With Vinegar, not ammonia! Mix the Windex in a 50/50 ratio with water and you have the perfect cleaning solution! No boiling water, no expensive wonder cleaners from the gun store! A suggestion: Place the mix in a spray bottle and go to town!
Here's a link with a little more discussion on this: Muzzle Loader Cleaning-Windex With Vinegar - HuntingNet.com Forums
While I've never personally used this method to clean a cap & ball revolver; I've used it successfully, many times to clean my Colt Single Action Army revolver in .45 Colt after shooting black powder. I just wish I still had my SAA's.
Here's what you need to look for if you're willing to try this.
Best of luck with your new cleaning routine!
Vinegar will remove bluing.
Currently, I have a 1849 Colt .31, a Dixie Gun Works M60 .44, a Lyman made Remington 1863 .44, a 1860 Colt .44 and a Ruger Old Army .44. All of the revolvers are replicas.
I started shooting muzzle loaders in 1969. I have or have had .58 rifle muskets, .69 1842 Harpers Ferry muskets (original and replica), Enfields in .577, replica and original, 1863 Springfield 2 band (original), 1855 and 1861 Springfield rifle muskets (replicas), replica .50 Hawkens rifles (flint), a .50 DGW Tennessee mountain rifle (flint), a couple of percussion shotguns (original and replica) and probably a few others that I have forgotten. And I have only used the Holy Black, none of these replica powders.
I started shooting muzzle loaders in 1969. I have or have had .58 rifle muskets, .69 1842 Harpers Ferry muskets (original and replica), Enfields in .577, replica and original, 1863 Springfield 2 band (original), 1855 and 1861 Springfield rifle muskets (replicas), replica .50 Hawkens rifles (flint), a .50 DGW Tennessee mountain rifle (flint), a couple of percussion shotguns (original and replica) and probably a few others that I have forgotten. And I have only used the Holy Black, none of these replica powders.
The method I outlined has worked over and over for me and on blued guns with no adverse effects.
However, if you think my method is a bad idea, by all means DON'T TRY IT!
Richard Simmons
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I do but not nearly as much as I'd like.
I've also got a Colt pattern model but can't find a photo of it at the moment.
I've also got a Colt pattern model but can't find a photo of it at the moment.
The vinegar mix works great on my great grandpa's W. Richards (not Wesley) sxs 12 gauge with Damascus barrels. I use BP cartridges exclusively - Buffalo Arms has them in #7.5 shot dove power (3 dram) loads, and #6 high brass (3 1/4 dram) loads. They also have BP buckshot, but I can't imagine needing it.
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Been shooting them for years, I like them with short barrels...
Ivan the Butcher
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Been shooting them for years, I like them with short barrels...
I have a Colt pattern, brass frame 44 I don't shoot very often, I may make one of these "Death Angles" out of it. It would conceal a lot better than a Remington pattern!
Ivan
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Haven't fire my C&B revolvers in a while, I coated the chamber mouths with shortening, prevented chain fires, cleaning was just a matter of wiping it down.
Ivan the Butcher
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In warm weather the shortening melts and slimes up the holsters! To prevent this I do either of two things. I have a paste lube I make out of 50/50 mix of shortening and paraffine and fill the chamber mouths for normal shooting. Or I put 1 or 2 Oxyoke lubed felt cards under the bullet. This works better for long term loading as it doesn't get full of grit and then get fired down the bore!
Ivan
Erich
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I also need to get back out with them. I find them a hassle to shoot during the ten-minute relays at the city range, so I might need to figure out how to get a solid loading table set-up to shoot them out into the boonies.
A Euroarms stainless steel version of the 1858 Remington, an Uberti 1851 Navy, an an Uberti 1860 Army comprise my battery of cap and ball revolvers. They have swallowed great quantities of 3F over the years and the flame, the smoke, and smell of Crisco bring joy.
The most fun, is after all that time, the hundred yard gong is pretty well doped out. Just quietly set up on the bench next to the kid in the black Perfection T-shirt doing seven yard mag dumps into his zombie target.
Wait for the pause, then, while he is stuffing magazines, ring the gong five or six times. Sometimes, they are curious...
The most fun, is after all that time, the hundred yard gong is pretty well doped out. Just quietly set up on the bench next to the kid in the black Perfection T-shirt doing seven yard mag dumps into his zombie target.
Wait for the pause, then, while he is stuffing magazines, ring the gong five or six times. Sometimes, they are curious...
Clean up is no big deal......some hot soapy water, run a brush through it, rinse with boiling water, air hose and done.
I frequently shoot 1860 Army clones in SASS matches and have no problem running a 6 stage match with no malfunctions.
Randy
I frequently shoot 1860 Army clones in SASS matches and have no problem running a 6 stage match with no malfunctions.
Randy
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29aholic
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I use wonder lube over the chambers.
I clean BP guns with a mix of Murphy's oil soap and distilled water.
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I clean BP guns with a mix of Murphy's oil soap and distilled water.
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tndrfttom
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Ball and Cap
And case hardening coloring, all in time. I use Murphy's oil soap in a spray bottle and hot water rinse, which helps thing dry faster. I'm sorry, but I don't see the advantage to Windex.
And case hardening coloring, all in time. I use Murphy's oil soap in a spray bottle and hot water rinse, which helps thing dry faster. I'm sorry, but I don't see the advantage to Windex.
This is GREAT! I have been wanting to shoot MLAIC style for years. There seems to be little interest stateside in this particular type of BP shooting. Certainly nothing closely local. The Pietta and Uberti stuff seems less than ideal for this type of precision, at least out of the box. Soft lockwork parts, poor tolerances, etc...
I understand Pedersoli uses a Uberti frame as their basic platform, but I'm not positive.
But, I have never seen a Pedersoli, nor a Hege or the now discontinued Feinwerkbau Rogers & Spencer. Cabelas, despite being a Pedersoli dealer, won't special order one for me, now that they've been taken over by Bass.
Nick, any comments on the relative merits? I'd like to know before plunking down a grand for something sight unseen!
Nice shooting!
Jim
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Anyone shoot a ball and cap revolver?
This is my .44 caliber Remington and I enjoy taking it to the range.
-Jay
Hi Jay,
Is that an original?
No, an Uberti.
