Barred from concealed EDC at home

[Shark Bait]

This is certainly not my original saying...YOU are the first responder!!!!!
The back of our range shirts say..
Be Kind
Be polite
Be Alert
You May Have To Shoot The Next Person You See.

Absolutely! Police would love to help out and save the day, but they can't do squat until they get there. It's on you until then.

LLB, your shirt also illustrates how law enforcement and our military on "peace keeping" missions have to operate daily. Thanks for sharing it.

 

[GunGuy69]

Wow, with that, crime doesn't pick a time or place. Most home invasions usually happen in the home. Carry everyday every place it allows, avoid gun free zones like the plague. Better to have a gun you don't use, than to need a gun you don't have. With that said, to each their own.

 

[SCriswell]

It has always amazed me that adults allow others to tell them what they can and cannot do.

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[KSDeputy]

Sounds like you have low T. See a doctor.

 

[kthom]

With all this said, It is NOBODY else's business whether or not I'm carrying! Exception would be my wife (and kids if we had any at home). My boys grew up with their dad carrying every day of their lives and it was obvious since duty holsters were open carry!! Their earliest education and instructions included a great deal of teaching about guns and gun safety. They knew they could touch and hold anytime they wanted to by asking me and together we would do it. As soon as they were big enough to safely shoot a gun, with me helping a lot in the beginning, they shot guns. They knew what it felt like, sounded like, and what that bullet could and would do to the things it struck. My wife also benefitted from these instructions and "classes". We never had issues about guns in the house and on my person.

A man and his wife need to be on the same page with as many things as they possibly can. All of us have some things about which we will not compromise. For me, right and wrong is two of those things. Take it or leave it! Fortunately, my wife is on the same page as I am about that. I'm not talking about opinion here or just likes and dislikes. We certainly are not on the same page with some of those. A good relationship involves compromises, but good character and integrity require that a person stands up for right and wrong, among other things. My wife and I have both made compromises over the past 50 years. Wasn't always easy, but our relationship to each other and our responsibility for our kids made it critically important to each of us to compromise when we could. Most of the things we compromised on were fortunately not very important stuff on the scale of important and priority things.

I don't tell people I carry. My wife and kids and grandkids know, and they have always been taught that it is nobody else's business and they should not tell anyone. I carry concealed unless hunting etc. If my gun is concealed, there is very little reason anyone else should know or question the fact. It's not an issue. I've carried guns and I've chewed tobacco all my life since I got "big" enough to do so. There are people who have known me biggest part of my life who do not know I do either one of those things. Unless I'm eating my dinner, you have not seen me without tobacco in my mouth. You figure out the rest. My life and the lives of my loved ones does not depend on whether I've got tobacco in my mouth. It could depend on the other thing.

My wife and I were on the same page about guns when we got married. I hoped she would carry or keep a gun handy for herself. For many years, she just kept a gun handy. Not the best situation, but not the worst either. Today, she is permitted as I am. Both of us would really hate if some home buster showed up at our house for a party and we were not prepared to give him a rousing welcome! Party on!! No, not really. We hope and pray we don't ever have to face that eventuality. But we might, and there is NO place we go these days when we might not also face a situation where having our tools with us might make the difference in whether we go home or not! So we try to be as prepared as possible for any eventuality ALL the time.

Sorry this is so long, but this subject is important to me, and I think it ought to be important to all of you as well. To protect ourselves, the first requirement is that we must be absolutely completely honest with ourselves about what is involved and the need to do so. We like to think there are times and places where we do not need to be on guard for our personal safety. Maybe there is, but if you've got your tool box with you even there, then you NEVER have to worry about not having your tools! After something happens unexpectedly is not the time to get prepared for that something. It's a challenge for all of us. We either take full responsibility for our own selves or we don't. And we each have to be satisfied with our own choices about these things. But I always wonder when I hear someone say that in this or that situation, I don't need to be fully prepared. I wonder if they are trying to convince me or themselves!! I'm not telling anyone what they should do. I'm telling you what I do, and that's based on 70 years of experience, much of it in uniform and having seen all the things that one sees in that business. So you take what I've said here for what ever it might be worth to you.

I'm not ragging on anyone here. Folks, this is a serious situation. I tell people who ask me, knowing I was a policeman for many years, about a gun for protection, many times after something has happened to scare them. I tell them that having a gun is not some kind of magic pill that, once you have it in hand, there will never be trouble any more in your life. I also tell them that having a gun and not having it where you can put your hand on it is pretty much a waste of time, cause you ain't gonna live your life within arm's reach of where that gun is at all the time! It's a HUGE responsibility and it's an important choice we each have to make. But it is an individual choice (whether we actively choose or not!). It's too important not to get it right. Thanks for listening ...

 

[Lee's Landing Billy]

Wow, with that, crime doesn't pick a time or place. Most home invasions usually happen in the home. Carry everyday every place it allows, avoid gun free zones like the plague. Better to have a gun you don't use, than to need a gun you don't have. With that said, to each their own.

GG you are so right. My tag line is not just a tag. I carry every step and shoot everyday.
Your last sentence says it all.

 

[Zoner]

no kids or grandchildren in my house, i am wearing my 9mm Shield iwb most of the time. When not wearing it it's within arms length. My wife keeps a Smith model 60 handy. I guess i'm blessed in that my carry habit makes her feel safer. If you experience a home invasion you will NOT have time to go get your gun out of the other room.

 

[CustomChevyGuy]

Unfortunately I currently live in a less than amazing neighborhood. At the moment, it's with in my budget, and not too far from my job. It's about 7 miles from work, and usually a 30 to 40 minute drive home. Welcome to S. Florida!

The first month I lived here was quite a show. Multiple times I came home, to find squad cars only a door or two away. My truck was broken into. Oh, and I found out that my door didn't lock properly. Needless to say I decided quickly that I'd keep my firearm handy.

When I get home, I change and usually end up putting my EDC in the pocket of my recliner chair. It's currently here now. At night it's sitting on my nightstand ready to go. About a 2 feet away from that is my gun cabinet. They are all loaded and ready to go, if something happens with my EDC.

(Today no less than 4 squad cars, a firetruck and EMT one street over)

My gf knows and isn't uncomfortable with it.

I'm not paranoid. I am acutely aware of my neighborhood and it's surroundings. I am ready for anything that might happen.

 

[Rustyt1953]

Most home invasions usually happen in the home.

I gotta write that down.

 

[GunGuy69]

Glad you liked my subliminal training!

 

[shamrocker]

Normal?

I enjoyed reading all the responses, I have had a few "life lesson" experiences that convinced me decades ago that I needed to be armed all the time. I either carry or it is within arms length whenever I am home. I live in a very low crime area but that said it is very, very rural as in nearest neighbor is 1/2 mile away and my house in in a forest, one way in one way out. When I step out the door I am armed. My wife of 41 years is so used to my ways nothing would surprise her. We don't tell each other what to do, never have. I don't tell anybody I am armed but I have been teaching CCW for 25 years so I would assume most people who know me would think I am armed. I was raised this way, I raised my boys this way. I really like the old expression "A gun is like a parachute, if you ever need it and you don't have it, you most likely won't ever need it again." I was lucky those decades ago, I was armed. I pray there won't be another event....but I will always be ready.

 

[Pavia]

It has always amazed me that adults allow others to tell them what they can and cannot do.

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I couldn't wait to get older, as a kid, so I would not have anyone to answer for. As I get older, I realize that will never happen...

Maybe when I'm an old geezer in a home

 

[tobimaru]

I carry pretty much everywhere, every day. I can think of two places I have disarmed; the airport and the police station. I will carry some places I shouldn't, under the assumption that concealed means concealed. I'm sure many others do also.

At home I keep a loaded firearm in my personal bedroom and I carry one loaded on me. It doesn't sleep under my pillow or anything, night stand is close enough.

I also make it a point to carry a knife with me at all times. Mainly utility, but in a pinch it could do the trick.

 

[JohnSW]

show them the news article about home invasions .. seems to be in the news every week !!

In my suburb, the odds of getting abducted by aliens is greater than the odds of being the victim of a home invasion.

(Here, the Police have not shot a bad buy in over a decade.)

 

[vipermd]

I ask because I tried to have this conversation over the weekend and I got a lot of unexpected feedback. Like, "it's excessive" specially since it's just a two bedroom apartment

I am not sure what you are trying to say: I carry all the time, except where prohibited by law. I open carry in my home if I choose to, or concealed if I choose. If you are saying your significant other finds it "excessive" I would suggest that you or they live some where else. The first night I met my wife, I told her I will show you mine, if you show me yours. She had a SW 36 and I had a PPK 380!! We will be married 26 years this fall, I often buy 2 of a firearm, one for her one for me. Excessive?? We both hunt, fish, shoot, like Rottweilers, etc, etc, and do not believe that you could have too many guns, either in the safe or on you. If I have company, I am not going to disarm because of them, why? Granted 90% of the visitors/friends in my house are LEO, but this is my house, if someone does not like it, they are certainly free to leave. I do not know that you can explain or convince someone that 2 is not excessive, any more than you can convince someone that one AR, AK, etc, is not excessive. You may get them to tolerate carrying 2, but it is a short term fix, only you can decide which is more important, your life or someone else's feelings?? Best of luck. Be Safe,

 

[Muss Muggins]

If you are saying your significant other finds it "excessive" I would suggest that you or they live some where else.

Yeah, not really an option for most people . . .

 

[Muss Muggins]

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(Here, the Police have not shot a bad buy in over a decade.)

But when they do next week . . .

 

[Horn]

Its A California Thing

#1, having a backup gun makes a lot of sense to me because if your primary gun goes down for any reason (fails during a trip to the range requiring a trip to the gunsmith) or you need to switch to another one because the one you're using has failed in the middle of an actual confrontation, NOT having it would be bad. 2nd, just because someone you live with has one doesn't mean it's yours. It's theirs and it's their responsibility to maintain control over it at all times including knowing where it is and preventing anyone who has not been expressly authorized to use it from doing so. Therefore, If you're going to have a backup gun, it can't be someone elses, right?

Last but not least, I've read about people who will EDC at home rather than hope they can get to the room with the gun in it in time if one (or more) assailants breach your windows or door, or (even more silly) hide one in every room. A full sized sidearm for OWB EDC at home isn't comfortable or always suitable (i.e., if you have company), so some people IWB EDC at home. Even if you might have a full-size firearm locked up bedside for when you aren't wearing it (sleeping in bed).

Do you? If so, how did you convince the person or people you live with the reasoning behind doing this?

I ask because I tried to have this conversation over the weekend and I got a lot of unexpected feedback. Like, "it's excessive" specially since it's just a two bedroom apartment, and like they're being policed in their own home. Reactions that struck me as very weird. I got questions like, "how many guns are enough?"

At the end of the day, while I am gonna have a spare, if these are the rules, then these are the rules and I'll follow them. But I was just shocked at the response my proposal to EDC at home received... We both have one, we've both gotten training, visit the range from time to time. I didn't think this was going to be that strange of a thing to want to discuss, but the reaction was pretty angry so I just wanted to share my story here and find out if anyone has had a similar experience and if they've ever come around?

What if your husband told you, "if you carry all day at home, I'm moving out."? Or wife for that matter?

What you experienced could only happen where you live. I iive in a 2nd Amendment state. No permits for open or concealed carry here. There never was a restriction (since even before statehood)
for open carry any where in any county area. Now Tombstone had a no carry law even it 1881. But carrying concealed is okay with
no permit required.
This would really shock your friends. Oh! Maybe you need new friends?
Stay safe
Poli Viejo

 

[wheelgunguy]

Everybody I've lived with in my adult life has known from well before we lived together that what I do with my firearms is my business. I don't know what to tell you about your current situation. But you might keep this in mind if your living situation ever changes. It eliminates the chance of it being a problem later.

 

[DD357]

If you want to do it just go ahead and do it. If they leave - too bad, so sad.