Bear Guns...What's With This Article???

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Ancient history..... Handguns for bear protection - National bear spray | Examiner.com

The article is dated June 2010, yet he is quoting data from a nearly 30 year old 1983 study. Of course, not a mention of the .454, .460, or .500. Shotgun slugs? How about a Marlin guide gun? (I lived in SE Alaskan in the early 80's, and I carried a 4" M29 backing up a Marlin .444. None were stainless, and rust was a huge problem in the constant rain.)

Am I missing something here? Is there a following page to this article I can't find where he goes on to explain that there are now excellent big bore hanguns in calibers two to three times as powerful as the .44? No mention that the little .44 is mild by today's standards.
 
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Why did they only test high powered handguns? I would think a 9mm would be the best because you can practice cheaply with it and get that all important second shot.... :p
 
After leafing through a few other so-called articles on that site, the guys that write them are not experts by any means, some of the stuff is just silly. Some joker had the .17 HMR and .300 WSM in a list of greatest hunting cartridges of all time wile leaving out the .30-30.

Nothing more than a collection of keyboard commandos with no guidance from real experts.
 
Well, considering the .44 Special when loaded correctly will do just as good a job as the .44 Magnum. The .45 Colt will easily do the job with the right bullet, and in a pinch, and has been done, the .357 Magnum. This article seems like alot of internet BS by so called gun experts.
 
My "make the bear go away" gun is a 6" Dan Wesson 44 Mag with 305 grain Buffalo Bore slugs. It is a two hands only cannon but in theory will get the job done. Only load it for isolated bear country camping and the occasional trip to the range. Must admit, I sure enjoy shooting it at the range with lighter loads.
 
No Problem...

Best Bear Defense:
1.Fast track shoes and a slower running companion
2.. Fresh feces
3.. Flame Thrower
4.. RPG

Jimmy, I'm guessing that if a large cranky bear is coming your way #2 won't be a problem. (o;
 
How about a Marlin guide gun? (I lived in SE Alaskan in the early 80's, and I carried a 4" M29 backing up a Marlin .444. None were stainless, and rust was a huge problem in the constant rain.)

I lived up there in the early 70's and we used to say the rifle was for the bear. The pistol was for yourself in case the rifle didn't work.
 
Most of you know this, but I'll relay the information for those who don't.

Basically there are two types of bears here in North America, the Grizzly and the Black bear. The Grizzly is much larger and more ferocious, while the Black bear is more timid.

It is recommended to carry pepper spray and a bell when trekking in known bear country. The bell alerts the bear to your presence and gives the bear time to react. A startled bear is very dangerous so jingling that bell usually keeps you safe, although you will have the pepper spray for back-up.

You can tell which bears are prevalent in your hiking area by looking for signs of bear scat. The Black bear scat is dark colored and smaller with undigested berries in it.

The Grizzly bear scat is larger, has bells in it and smells like pepper. :D
 
Bear Scat

If you don't like the humor on this site you need a shrink.....Bear scat that smell like pepper spray and has small bells in it...O' Lord I love it
 
Once upon a time, there was a hunter that lived in the “lower 48.” He avidly hunted the game within his driving distance, but yearned to hunt big game... especially, the Alaskan grizzly bear. The hunter read all he could find on the big bears and started planning for the costly trip “up north.” His first decision was what rifle to buy, for while he had several hunting rifles already, none were appropriate for grizzly. He finally decided on the Winchester Model 70 chambered in .458 Magnum, a true “elephant gun” that should provide all the power he needed for grizzly. He spent hours loading ammo for practice and spent many a Monday morning rubbing a sore shoulder as a result of range practice with the brutally recoiling .458 Magnum. After years of dreaming and practicing, he’d finally saved enough money for his hunt of a lifetime. The day came when he departed his local airport bound for Anchorage where he was to catch a connecting bush flight to his guide’s camp the following day. On his arrival at the airport, he eagerly collected his luggage, rifle and other equipment, and headed out the terminal to the row of airport taxis outside. As he was nearing the exit, he noticed a newspaper dispenser and his eyes flicked up to read the headline: “HUNTER MAULED BY BEAR.” Our intrepid hunter stopped in his tracks, aghast at the news. Was it possible he’d made a mistake? Was he truly prepared for his upcoming hunt? He acknowledged with some self-satisfaction that the gun he’d chosen was certainly of sufficient power, but he still had some reservations. What if the sights were misaligned during the handling of his luggage? What if he lost the rifle while traversing a stream? What if the rifle, despite being completely reliable during its years of practice, chose now to break some part and malfunction? All these thoughts flashed through his head in a minute as he stood pondering the newspaper headline. “I know what I need,” he thought to himself. “I’ll buy a back-up gun, a handgun that I can carry under my coat.”

With this in mind, he climbed into the first available cab and instructed the driver to take him to the nearest gun store. On his arrival, he was pleased to see it was a large store, seemingly well stocked. He hustled into the store, dropped his bags by the door and approached the clerk. “I’m going hunting for grizzly tomorrow and I want a handgun in case my rifle fails. What do you recommend?”

The clerk looked the hunter up and down, then said, “I’ve got just the thing; follow me.” He walked down the display cases past the combat semi-automatics, the large-framed magnum revolvers, the snubbies and the plinkers until he’d reached the last display case. He reached in and brought out a Hi-Standard .22 derringer. “This is what I carry when I’m bear hunting,” he said as he offered it to he hunter.

“That little thing?!” the hunter exclaimed. “That won’t stop a bear!”

“It’s not for the bear, you moron!”
 
Help ya out here.

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I was reading I believe Fred Bears Field Notes several years ago. I had seen pictures of Fred standing infront of his Huge World Record Polar Bear he shot with a bow. In the book it explained this was his I believe Third world record polar bear he had shot with a bow. They had to shoot the first two with a 460 Weatherby to keep them from eating Fred.

If I lived in Alaska I would not feel adequately armed for bear carrying my 480 Ruger Super Redhawk with 400's in it. I have no interest in close encounters with large bear.
 
I figure if my .41 Magnum can't do it with the right bullets, then it can't be done. Anyway, here in NY we have black bears, although they have been getting a might large, some of the big ones we have been seeing push 500-600 pounds. A black bear of even 300 pounds is a real nasty customer when they're in a snit. I have seen where they have busted off doors to camps with one good shove. There was even some video footage of one rolling an old kitchen stove UPHILL because it could smell the grease still inside. Pound for pound the black bear is even more dangerous than the grizzly. What's worse is these idiot tourists that come up here think they are cute and cuddly. One woman year ago had both of her legs broken when a little 100 pound cub ran her over.
 
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