Best place to buy a beater??

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Where would the best place be for me to find a beater to practice my smithing skills on, learn about these things and maybe try to refinish, mess up, make mistakes on the aren't too costly.
I guess I'm looking for a 29, 27, 25, or 19??
Might as well be in keeping with my collection.
Can I get a real old beater for 400 bucks?? Or is that reaching?
5/600 I'm sure but what would you guys do if you were wanting to do this?
Thanks
 
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Where would the best place be for me to find a beater to practice my smithing skills on, learn about these things and maybe try to refinish, mess up, make mistakes on the aren't too costly.
I guess I'm looking for a 29, 27, 25, or 19??
Might as well be in keeping with my collection.
Can I get a real old beater for 400 bucks?? Or is that reaching?
5/600 I'm sure but what would you guys do if you were wanting to do this?
Thanks
For $400, it won't be an N-frame and it won't be a 357 Magnum K-frame, at least not these days. Even for a beater 38 Special K-frame, you are probably looking at close to $400. For a 357 K-frame beater, I'd say $500. A beaten up N-frame is going to be in the $700-$800 area. The times have changed and not for the better.
 
This goes back something on the order of 60-65 years, but my one and only beater was (still is) a 4" Kit Gun---the victim of a house fire. The finish (blue) was well and truly RUINED!! Beyond that, everything appeared to be in good order. I gave it to a St. Louis Police Sergeant who moonlighted as a Gunsmith, and it came back plated with nickel/chrome/whatever---and was absolutely GORGEOUS---and still is---wearing Fitz Gunfighter grips.

It was never part of my now long gone collection, as the Boss Lady claimed it as HER'S-----and has proceeded to dispatch all sorts of furry critters who had the temerity to invade her gardens!!

Beware the lady with the shiny gun!!

It is, as it has always been, sitting on top of the liquor cabinet in the dining room---loaded and ready to go!!

Ralph Tremaine
 
That gun is $599 opening
I think it's more than I want to pay for what looks like a gun that is too deeply pitted to be redeemed without adding metal with welding.
That will blue differently.
I was actually in Turnbull restoration yesterday as I had to be up in New York state gigging around right now.
I had to pay them a visit.
Nice fellas, who Were very happy to answer questions, and they did tell me that sometimes they have to weld and add metal to some real badly beaten guns And that does not turn out the same due to the different metal.
I also don't want to be into it that far.
I'd probably pay up to 350 For that one, but not 600.
Still, I wanted to get you guys opinion on it.
I may be treading on very dodgy ground here on the forum, but I will be watching this one, and its value.
If it's up for too long, I may make the guy an offer if it does not sell, but I would also be interested to see who does what they do with it.
If it just stays in that shape and is used as a truck gun or beater or whatever then that's the end of it I guess.
 
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In fact, I would love, And I mean, absolutely love to see what somebody who knows what he's doing could do with this one.
If it comes out, looking Pretty decent, then it would give me hope… But I'm not gonna go there just yet at that price.
 
I may have overstepped the bounds here… Not sure Where the grey area is But it certainly pertains to a project I'm thinking about.
Has anyone here seen an example of a beater in this condition that came out close to really nice?
 
There is a way to bring that one back. The pitting seems to be mostly on the barrel and cylinder. The frame looks pretty good. If you're not concerned with it staying "original", a barrel and cylinder swap would go a long way.

Yes. That's a way to go for sure.
Might be an option.
Still, $600 is more than I want to pay I guess
 
I believe $600 for any 4" 29-2 in shooting condition is a steal. If I needed it I would be all over it like a fat kid on cake.
 
I believe $600 for any 4" 29-2 in shooting condition is a steal. If I needed it I would be all over it like a fat kid on cake.

I'd buy it, but I'm buying yours!!
Haha. I just can't quite justify this right now. I'll see if there are any bites over the next few weeks and maybe make an offer if not.
 
Speaking of Turnbull's as "Model 29 (etc.)" did, I too visited Turnbull's---and got an education. I wasn't all that happy at the outcome, but I done got edumacated!!

The Boss Lady and I are at a gun show at the Nashville Fairgrounds. She's there because there's also Antique Show in another building across the way---and I'm going to that with her---if I know what's good for me!!

Here's a .44 H.E. 4th Target in "Satin Blue"-----the funky finish. It is SLATHERED with oil!! A little voice screamed out RED ALERT---RED ALERT!! I asked the man if he had anything I could use to wipe the oil off, and surprisingly enough, he produced a roll of paper towels. I start wiping----at the wrong end! The Boss Lady is getting antsy, and say's "C'mon!! Let's GO!!" We went! I took the gun along with me because I needed one, the price was only $800, and what I'd wiped off so far was as new. The end of Chapter One is the cylinder has a turn line reminiscent of the Grand Canyon!!

I call Turnbull's when we get home. "Can you refinish a cylinder to match the rest of the gun?" "Yes."

We have a race coming up at Watkins Glen, and Turnbull's digs are 50 miles down the road. Race practice is over, and we're headed for Turnbull's.

We arrive, and tell the tale we got on the phone----Yes, we can do the deed to match. "Who told you THAT?!!" (I don't know.) "Well I'm in charge of the bluing, and I'm telling you we can't!!" I stay cool, and he calms down---and proceeds: "Bluing is a living thing. It reacts to its environment. Now we can reblue this cylinder and it will look like it did when it was new---50 years ago; but it won't look like the gun looks now!" He starts up again, and says, "We can do that cylinder fifty times, altering the several variables every time, and we MIGHT get a match twice-----how do you like those odds?!!" I allowed as how I didn't much care for them, and we headed back to the track---sadder but wiser.

I sent the whole gun back to the factory, who refinished the whole gun in Bright Blue----that in accord with the wishes of the fellow I was selling it to---for $1000. In addition to having it refinished thus, he asked me to ask S&W to omit any/all factory service/refinish markings. I told him I'd ask, but was pretty sure they wouldn't comply.

The end of this tale goes like so: They complied with my request-----with no comment/discussion/chit-chat of any kind----and he sold the gun as an original for $4000!!! So---should you happen upon a .44 H.E. 4th Target in Bright Blue that looks too good to be true, it's too good to be true!!

All this was 20 some odd years ago. I don't know what would happen today, but know that if it looks too good to be true, it could very well be just exactly THAT!!

And I ended up with another .44, that was sure enough original---but it took a while!

Ralph Tremaine
 
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I remember not too long ago, forgot which forum but a bunch of fellas bought some gunsmith specials that turned out to be LE specials from overseas all had condition issues or no barrel for some reason? But priced about $100-$200. They're probably all gone now, But be on the lookout as they had S&W model 10's in various configurations, Colt DS as well.
One of the outfits selling these "gunsmith specials" was J&G sales in AZ, Don't remember the other outfits. But these were right up your alley workable guns at reasonable prices fix 'em & flip 'em, project guns that you can cut your teeth on & still have room to break even on.
 
I remember not too long ago, forgot which forum but a bunch of fellas bought some gunsmith specials that turned out to be LE specials from overseas all had condition issues or no barrel for some reason? But priced about $100-$200. They're probably all gone now, But be on the lookout as they had S&W model 10's in various configurations, Colt DS as well.
One of the outfits selling these "gunsmith specials" was J&G sales in AZ, Don't remember the other outfits. But these were right up your alley workable guns at reasonable prices fix 'em & flip 'em, project guns that you can cut your teeth on & still have room to break even on.
 
If I got that 29 I would ditch the barrel. Maybe the cylinder to,But the frame looks pretty good. You could cut a piece of 2" pipe in 1/2 length ways and put sand paper inside it and go to work and have the OD looking good. The flutes just get the right sized dowel and use sand paper on the outside of it. But, then I have several barrels and cylinders anyway. Just took the barrel and cylinder off a 29-3 in fact to make a nice 44 special. It cylinder isn't recessed but I have a couple that are.
 
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