Glad to hear some GOOD news about one for a change! Is that the original frame that was repaired or did they give you a new one?
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Glad to hear some GOOD news about one for a change! Is that the original frame that was repaired or did they give you a new one?
Mike Walsh
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Smith sent me a new gun. The original purchase was an EAA series, the takedown level flew out constantly.
I just finished cleaning the gun and after close inspection all looks good, ready for carry.
I just finished cleaning the gun and after close inspection all looks good, ready for carry.
How many times did you need to send it in before they replaced it?
I called Monday about mine. Got no where. E-mail a guy I had talked to about the problems. Found out they are just repairing it.
I did get 2 mags sent to me though. lot of good those do..I was hoping they were going to replace the gun with a newer updated one.
This has been a constant posting as a problem for several months now. I sold the one I had and I love S&W products.
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I called Monday about mine. Got no where. E-mail a guy I had talked to about the problems. Found out they are just repairing it.
Don't give up yet on a replacement. After being there for two weeks, two weeks ago they told me that my BG380 was being replaced. Then last week they told me that Engineering was testing a new fix and that mine would be repaired instead of replaced. Yesterday, they told me that according to the "morning meeting", that those presently in for the takedown lever issue would be replaced instead of repaired. Should be shipped to my FFL by the end of the week. I have my fingers crossed that this will be what happens and that it happens soon since my gun has been there for a month.
wow. I was told the same things about Engineering working on a repair. I have just been waiting to see if Paul, the guy i have been in contact with E-mails me back with any updated info. Maybe I will E-mail or call him tomorrow and see if anything has changed with mine.
thanks for the news/update. I really want it back lol
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Mt BG 380 has been in the mail or at Smith's repair shop for over 2 months. Only had it in my hand for 24 hours since I bought it. Lock down lever pin doesn't like to stay in place. Smith politely agreed to replace it 3 weeks ago, after 2 returns to their shop, but told me it wouldn't ship for another 3 weeks due to their backlog. In short, Smith will make good on the warranty, no question about it. It's only a matter of how long it takes to make the decision and get it shipped. My serial number was EAA 6xxx. May want to be cautious when buying one if the prefix is EAA.
Stay tuned for a range report when it comes.
Mt BG 380 has been in the mail or at Smith's repair shop for over 2 months. Only had it in my hand for 24 hours since I bought it. Lock down lever pin doesn't like to stay in place. Smith politely agreed to replace it 3 weeks ago, after 2 returns to their shop, but told me it wouldn't ship for another 3 weeks due to their backlog. In short, Smith will make good on the warranty, no question about it. It's only a matter of how long it takes to make the decision and get it shipped. My serial number was EAA 6xxx. May want to be cautious when buying one if the prefix is EAA.
Stay tuned for a range report when it comes.
I wasn't aware of this issue prior to purchase. I wasn't planning on getting one so soon, but when the wife agrees with any gun purchase while at a gun show you just don't pass that one up! One of the features I liked about the BG380 is the takedown lever. The LCP is about impossible to remove without risk of scarring the frame. When I took my BG apart last night the lever was a real pain to operate. So much so that I thought they had it way too tight. Now I understand why. It did become easier after a few times of disassemble & reassemble. I look forward to seeing how it performs at the range.
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Got mine back today.
Letter with package from S&W said:
Re: Replacement frame with new serial number. Original frame destroyed.
My new serial number is EAE2**, my old serial number was EAA.
Initial thoughts, much heavier spring and new slide pin is extremely hard to remove. At least it shouldn't come out. I did notice that I don't have the "ring" around the laser button. I thought that was the new frame that people are receiving after sending in a pistol with the problem. I'll get it to the range to see how it performs. I can tell right now that the laser is way off.
Letter with package from S&W said:
Re: Replacement frame with new serial number. Original frame destroyed.
My new serial number is EAE2**, my old serial number was EAA.
Initial thoughts, much heavier spring and new slide pin is extremely hard to remove. At least it shouldn't come out. I did notice that I don't have the "ring" around the laser button. I thought that was the new frame that people are receiving after sending in a pistol with the problem. I'll get it to the range to see how it performs. I can tell right now that the laser is way off.
tnharley
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I haven't heard of any of the EAB frames having the same issues as the EAA frames. I would say that you are in good shape.
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Sorry to say that after 2 trips to the factory with the EAA frame the replacement EAB gun flew apart too. At the second range session @ around 250 rounds the take-down pin hit the ground as it did so many times before.... I said "we're done here" to myself. I bought a Ruger LCP a while back and it's been flawless...The BG has been sold at a loss. Smith's quality is a shame, more worried about putting a red flashlight in a gun than make it go bang......
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Sorry to hear Mike. I haven't had problems with mine since I have got it back from S&W with a different frame. But still the thought of it coming apart in the moment of a life or death situation lingers in the back of my mind. Add to that I shot a Sig P238 earlier this week, what a sweet gun and great trigger for roughly the same amount I paid for the Bodyguard. I'll hold on to the Bodyguard for now and see what happens down the road. Could be a Sig or Kahr inside my waist band before to long.
the polymer isn't the frame. It's the cover.
I asked the same thing and I was told. The frame is the part with the serial number which was replaced. The frame sits in the polymer by roll pins
Wife n I took it to the range last week, put about 85 rounds thru it & it performed flawlessly. So I'd say at least this EAB frame isn't showing any problems initially. It handled nicely & shot good groups. She likes it and thats most impt.
I'm encouraged that at least S&W has admitted there is a problem and they are repairing/replacing defective BK380's for their customers. After all, it took six years of constant complaining for them to even admit their was a problem with the PPK/S. What is it about producing a simple blow back operated dinky little .380 that causes so many problems for U.S. manufacturers? S&W, Ruger, Grendel and others seem to have all kinds of problems with these little guns whereas they have been in production in Europe for decades.
Hello everyone, new guy here. We've owned an earlier BG 380 (EAA6XXX) for about a month now (my wife's gun, but I really like it), and have nearly 250 rounds through it. Absolutely no takedown lever issues while firing, although it is very easy to rotate past the straight down position, and very easy to extract. Having read most of the threads on this topic, I'm concerned, but I feel kind of silly writing to S&W and telling them the gun works great so far but I'm afraid it might break. Anybody else send theirs in for repair/replacement without experiencing any failures? I've gotta think that if the issue caused S&W to change the design, and I've got an early production model, that I'm living on borrowed time.
Another topic--this is an odd one, but when I reassemble from a field strip and try to lock the slide back to insert the takedown lever, the barrel often retracts with the slide, preventing insertion of the lever. I've been experimenting a little bit while typing this, and it seems that if I hold the gun perfectly vertical while locking the slide, the barrel stays in place like it's supposed to, but if I tilt the gun while locking the slide, the barrel often travels back with the slide. Anybody else have any idea what I'm talking about?
Another topic--this is an odd one, but when I reassemble from a field strip and try to lock the slide back to insert the takedown lever, the barrel often retracts with the slide, preventing insertion of the lever. I've been experimenting a little bit while typing this, and it seems that if I hold the gun perfectly vertical while locking the slide, the barrel stays in place like it's supposed to, but if I tilt the gun while locking the slide, the barrel often travels back with the slide. Anybody else have any idea what I'm talking about?
tnharley
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Same thing happens to mine also. Just got to ensure that the barrel is fully extended before inserting the pin.
I have had my Bodyguard 380 for about two months now. The first time I fired it, it was great! After I broke the gun down and cleaned it my troubles began. I could not get the slide to lock out, it just wouldn't go back far enough. Then the take down lever or slide release kept popping out. This has been happing under rapid and slow fire. The same thing happened to me, I was using rapid fire and the lever popped out ,the whole slide with live round went flying down range. I felt like a complete ass asking them to shut down the firing line so I could gather the slide spring and guide rod. Taking mine back for repair. Have to wait and see.
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