Bodyguard 2.0 guide rod & recoil spring....

I’ve spent about 20 hours fondling the guide rod and spring assembly and my BG2.0

Here’s what I've experienced so far....

Regarding the guide rod and spring assembly not seating into the barrel end of the slide:

There are several mechanical issues that cause the guide rod and spring not to seat into the end of the slide. When that happens the spring assembly cannot be compressed and will not allow the rear spring cap to seat into the slot at the barrel lug.

Issue 1: the end of the spring is not angled flat with the guide rod cap.
Issue 2: the end of the spring is not seated under the guide rod cap.
Issue 3 the spring is not centered around the guide rod cap.

Before attempting to reassemble make sure the end of the spring is seated under the guide rod cap. The first time I used flat head screwdriver to push it. Make sure the spring is centered round the end cap. As you insert the guide rod on top of the barrel and push it into the slide, rotate the guide rod to properly seat it into its collar space. The end cap must be flush or nearly flush with the front edge of slide.

The photo shows the inside of the slide has two collars. One allows the guide rod cap to seat flat with the front edge of the slide. The other larger diameter collar is where the spring will seat. If the spring is not seated exactly in that collar space, the guide rod springs cannot be compressed. On my BG2.0, when I’m reassembling the guide rod/spring assembly into end of slide and on top of the barrel, if the end cap of the guide is not sitting flush or slightly extended beyond the end of the slide, I cannot compress the spring assembly.

To correct the design flaw with the guide rod spring, I removed the main spring by carefully pulling the end over the guide rod cap and slid it off the guide rod. I cut about 3/8” off the twisted end of the spring with a very small Dremel Tool cut-off disc. I carefully worked the spring back onto the guide rod and pressed the end under the cap and very gently squeezed the end of the spring around the guide rod with a pair of plyers.
 

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I was impressed when I held the new Bodyguard, but I am sorry, there are too many issues with it so far. I'll be waiting until next summer at the earliest. Guide rods that won't go into the slide, pieces of the magazine follower needing to be trimmed, ejectors falling out, using a dremel to polish the ridge on the 2 piece feed ramp? Come on, S&W! This gun was on my Christmas list. Not now.

It also makes me wonder if the guns they send to the well known reviewers get extra special attention to make sure there are no issues so they can sell more, while the average Joe has to cross his fingers and hope for the best.

I'll stick with my original M&P Bodyguard. Never failed me yet.
 
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Here's how I work around it until a fix or after market comes to save us.


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I have about 400 rounds through mine and just took it apart to clean it and the end of my guide rod snapped completely off:mad:
 
I attached a photo sorry I couldn’t really get my phone to focus, but I’ll be calling Smith and Weston on Monday. Love the little gun shoots great pretty disappointed with the guy ride though, but I guess these things happen…. I’m a shareholder of Smith and have had countless J frames and shields of the year so I was pretty excited to see this come out as the first generation in my opinion wasn’t great at least for me.
 

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New Spring Has gone bad also

My Bodyguard 2.0 did the same thing. The end of the spring was coming past the lip. On my second range trip the slide jammed in place. When I finally got it open and disassembled the large spring had become "un-captive", i.e. was completely free out past the end of the guide rod.

S&W sent me a new spring. I took it to the range TWICE and now the new spring has done the exact same thing! I will NEVER carry this gun. Obviously a design flaw.
 
One of the posts shows a newer style of spring.
I do not recall if it was a replacement from S&W or was already factory installed when it was purchased.
 
I attached a photo sorry I couldn’t really get my phone to focus, but I’ll be calling Smith and Weston on Monday. Love the little gun shoots great pretty disappointed with the guy ride though, but I guess these things happen…. I’m a shareholder of Smith and have had countless J frames and shields of the year so I was pretty excited to see this come out as the first generation in my opinion wasn’t great at least for me.

Wow.... this is the first time I've seen a defect like this.
 
It's sad to think a company like S&W can't correct something as simple as a guide rod. I'm still hoping Lakeline or Galloway will come up with a corrected offering.
 
I have tried everything possible and only corrected the installation of the guide rod. S&W sent me another guide rod spring assembly and that works perfectly. However I still cannot rack the slide. I have several guns from S&W, Ruger, and others and this is the only gun with such a difficult to rack slide. I even sent it back to S&W and they returned it with a note "cannot duplicate problem". I really like the gun size and it fits my hand really good but I have to use a "Handi-Racker" to rack it. I'm going to give up and sell the bitch.
 
Just ordered the Galloway with the OEM spring rate. So you ask, why couldn't S&W simply done the same thing? They were only showing about 30 in stock, so I expect they'll be flying off the shelf. Thanks for the tip Jim!
 
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Interesting find.

Lemme ask, they say the -10 spring is for lower pressure/power ammo. Who would know they have lower power .380 and keep using it on purpose?

The +10 seems maybe workable for 380 +P, but seems that a person would be asking for cycling problems to get a stronger spring for a .380.

I like the captured spring and that it is flat! that seems good.

Thoughts?
 
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