Bought a 5.7 today at LGS

[M_conrad_0311]

I went in to my LGS for an expected transfer that did not show up, but I was lucky enough to grab a new MP 5.7. I am excited to have gotten one as easily as I did. I can't wait to get it to the range.
It is very thin but large enough for my bigger mits. I went without the safety for carry reasons. It looks and feels like a quality firearm.
Ammo was available as well. I picked up two 50count boxes of FN cartridges for $37ea. I thought I would share my good fortune.

 

[LimaCharlie]

Congratulations on a good choice.

I bought a Kel-Tec P50 pistol with four fifty-round magazines recently.

 

[AJ]

Pricey, pricey ammo. Good looking gun, but pricey ammo.

 

[686-380]

Congratulations!!! I'm looking forward to your range reports.

 

[Hawg Rider]

5.7s are beginning to arrive...

I posted in another 5.7 thread that the S&W M&P 5.7s are beginning to arrive at stores. My son's Central Florida gun store has two in stock right now (no thumb safety), $650...and more on the way. They have reasonably priced ammo, too. Since Kel-Tec is just down the road from his store, they carry the Kel-Tec 5.7s, as well. Just FYI. Enjoy!

 

[M_conrad_0311]

When I asked to see the one that I purchased, 3 other patrons bought one as well. I would like to check out the PSA for sure. Ammo will be something else to watch. My LGS had some Federal, but it was more expensive than the FN.

 

[BullsEye07512]

That gun looks great ...but here in NJ that nice 22 round magazine would have to be pegged to 10 rounds

 

[Hawg Rider]

When I asked to see the one that I purchased, 3 other patrons bought one as well. I would like to check out the PSA for sure. Ammo will be something else to watch. My LGS had some Federal, but it was more expensive than the FN.

My local gun store is selling Federal's American Eagle for $34.95/50 rds. (40 grain).

 

[shipwreck]

Very cool. I am still waiting for my local shop to get one in.

 

[Mark8]

Pricey, pricey ammo. Good looking gun, but pricey ammo.

On this side of the pond, where FN Herstal was founded, is headquartered and runs a huge factory, the price of a 50-round box of FN 5.7x28 is $86 ... so $37/box sounds really good.

 

[eytsai]

Nice. I'm looking for one to see in person. How does the trigger feel? Had a shield plus that's "gritty".

 

[sigp220.45]

That gun looks great ...but here in NJ that nice 22 round magazine would have to be pegged to 10 rounds

That's my issue as well, except at 15 rounds. I love the concept, but part of the draw is the large capacity which is neutered here.

Cool gun, though!

 

[Paul in Nevada]

My local gun store is selling Federal's American Eagle for $34.95/50 rds. (40 grain).

70¢/round for re-loadable 22WMR?

 

[LVSteve]

How does the action feel when you rack the slide. In my experience rotating lockup guns have a totally different feel to a tilting barrel design.

 

[VictorLouis]

When I handled one the other day, I found myself eating my negative comments from the other thread. Smooth, easy slide racking, and an excellent, crisp trigger. Personally, I don't think I'd be at ease unless it had the safety. If they produce this with a normal barrel, and safety, I'm down to guinea-pig it.

 

[1sailor]

The 5.7 round might not be so bad if it was an easily reloaded round. Unfortunately, it's not. I guess I'm not as rich as the rest of you but for me spending $200 a month on ammo for just one particular gun is not an option.

 

[LVSteve]

When I handled one the other day, I found myself eating my negative comments from the other thread. Smooth, easy slide racking, and an excellent, crisp trigger. Personally, I don't think I'd be at ease unless it had the safety. If they produce this with a normal barrel, and safety, I'm down to guinea-pig it.

What do you mean by "a normal barrel"???

 

[Mr. October]

That gun looks great ...but here in NJ that nice 22 round magazine would have to be pegged to 10 rounds

And I'm sure Murphy and is compadres will wind up banning it as an "anti-police round" or some such thing.

 

[CH4]

Other than a range toy, varmint pistol, what's the intended purpose for the 5.7? I have a 22TCM barrel for my 9mm 1911. It's had very light recoil, impressive fireball and muzzle blast, but not much more than a novelty. Is it a serious SD round?

 

[Mark8]

Other than a range toy, varmint pistol, what's the intended purpose for the 5.7? I have a 22TCM barrel for my 9mm 1911. It's had very light recoil, impressive fireball and muzzle blast, but not much more than a novelty. Is it a serious SD round?

Well, the caliber was developed for and is used mostly by military and law enforcement all around the world (a lot!). I think it's safe to say that its effectiveness has been proven beyond doubt, even when using regular, non-armor piercing rounds (see 2009 Fort Hood shooting and other well-documented cases).

 

[shipwreck]

my local shop finally got in their first M&P 5.7 pistol. I was the first one to look at it... And... I found the grip too big for my smaller hands. Too big, back to front. I had a feeling this would happen. But as they advertised it as the thinnest 5.7 grip (side to side), I thought the thinness MIGHT make up for the longer cartridge sized grip... I had to try it, because the gun is really interesting....

2 handed, it works. 1 handed, the grip is too long. So, while I wanted to buy it, I passed. I have had to sell too many guns over the years because they were too big for my hands... They always seem like they will work while I am at the gun store... But after several range trips, I always see the truth. Especially any 45 that isn't a 1911....

I also finally looked at a 2011. I had been told the grip was fatter than a G17, so I never bothered to look at them... I didn't want to find out it worked, and then I would want to spend a ton of money for a nice one... It's "okay" in the grip size, but is on the border of what fits my hands.

So, no purchase today

 

[ThaDoubleJ]

I've been hanging onto my FiveseveN since forever but I'm finally going to send it down the road and move to the S&W. More rounds, less $$, matches my fleet of M&Ps, factory threaded barrel that's not $400 extra...all wins across the board for me. I may even do a MRDS. I don't see a point to them at 21 feet, but 5.7 will do 100yds legit, I can see a dot for a pistol that can work at that range.

 

[tinman931]

I went in to my LGS for an expected transfer that did not show up, but I was lucky enough to grab a new MP 5.7. I am excited to have gotten one as easily as I did. I can't wait to get it to the range.
It is very thin but large enough for my bigger mits. I went without the safety for carry reasons. It looks and feels like a quality firearm.
Ammo was available as well. I picked up two 50count boxes of FN cartridges for $37ea. I thought I would share my good fortune.

I really like those and would be interested. I'm just waiting for ammo prices to come down. Hopefully, with several new models being introduced, 5.7 ammo prices will start to fall.

 

[tinman931]

I know some have doubts about the effectiveness of the round, but having that many rounds in a low recoil and easy to manage pistol would make it a very acceptable carry gun, IMO.

 

[Mark8]

I know some have doubts about the effectiveness of the round, but having that many rounds in a low recoil and easy to manage pistol would make it a very acceptable carry gun, IMO.

Definitely. I only know the Ruger and the FN, but they are both very lightweight and fast shooting guns. It's really just the size that may be a problem, but in a backpack, glove compartment etc, they make a lot of sense.

Looking forward to reports about the M&P, seems to be the most interesting design of the current 5.7x28 pistols.

 

[mikkyc]

How about this?


IOM. First one to hit civilian US market.

 

[Bill Lear]

I know some have doubts about the effectiveness of the round, but having that many rounds in a low recoil and easy to manage pistol would make it a very acceptable carry gun, IMO.

Since many enjoy likening the 5.7 to the .22 magnum, as relates to the 9mm, let's just do that.
Over on Lucky Gunner they've compiled a database of gel tests so I selected a few of each at random:

Premium Defensive 9mm Ammo For Sale - 124 gr JHP - Federal HST Ammunition In Stock - 20 Rounds
Duty 9mm Ammo For Sale - 147 gr JHP - Federal LE HST Ammunition In Stock

Premium 22 WMR Ammo For Sale - 40 gr - Speer Gold Dot 22 Magnum Short Barrel Rimfire Ammunition In Stock - 50 Rounds
22 WMR Ammo For Sale - 45 gr Critical Defense by Hornady - Hornady 22 Magnum Rimfire Ammunition In Stock - 50 Rounds

The difference between the 9mm HST rounds and the .22 magnum rounds is virtually insignificant and it must be noted that the Gold Dot .22M was traveling +/-387 fps slower than an average 5.7x28 handgun load, and the Hornady Critical Defense was +/-461 fps slower than a 5.7x28 40gr. from a handgun.

One would then expect the much faster 5.7 round to be certainly on par with, but likely better than the 9mm performance rounds.

In any case, a 16 to 30 shot .22 magnum pistol seems like an excellent choice for defensive carry!

 

[hardluk1]

I've read several times the 5.7x28 40gr bullet fired from a 5"pistol - namely the ruger pistol version only manages 1650fps to 1750 fps depending on ammo or brand . So is it better than say Underwood lehigh 68gr defender that can exceed that velocity from some 4.25 match grade barrels and for sure in a 5" barrel and I have tried this ammo . recoil is not much more that a 22mag rai 1911 that I have and by far less than a 124gr underwood +P load .

Bottom line for me is No 5.7x28 wanted and I'll never carry a 22mag handgun . My only 9mm is for future carry =when to old for 40sw and 45 , Ha .

 

[Mark8]

I've read several times the 5.7x28 40gr bullet fired from a 5"pistol - namely the ruger pistol version only manages 1650fps to 1750 fps depending on ammo or brand . So is it better than say Underwood lehigh 68gr defender that can exceed that velocity from some 4.25 match grade barrels and for sure in a 5" barrel and I have tried this ammo . recoil is not much more that a 22mag rai 1911 that I have and by far less than a 124gr underwood +P load .

Bottom line for me is No 5.7x28 wanted and I'll never carry a 22mag handgun . My only 9mm is for future carry =when to old for 40sw and 45 , Ha .

Great post, as it affords me with the unique opportunity (first time ever in history?) to argue that one of the 5.7x28's advantages is that it is so inexpensive!

(1 round of Underwood 9mm Luger +P 68gr Xtreme Defender costs about twice as much as a round of factory FN 5.7x28. Go figure!)

 

[Dave Haynes]

I don't want to get shot with anything. I bought a 9mm shield it has the Calif required manual safety and what a ***. I'm sorry, if that is an example of S&W today I'm not a customer. For the life of me I do not understand a striker fired automatic with no safety except that little goober on the trigger. A commercial 1911 has a very reachable with the side of the thumb safety and it has two more safeties on top of that. If you have trouble racking it, cock the hammer first. Or a mod 36 is so safe it smiles at you. You could throw it at someone miss and it ain't going off. I can put 5 in your body at 50 yds and that Shield isn't doing that anytime soon. I cannot see feeling comfortable with a Glock or any of these small hard to load gems in your belt or pocket. And its not a training issue it's a common sense issue for me. To each his own.