bounty hunter rules please

We had a bounty hunter here arrested last week for illegal use of a firearm and I believe, attempted homicide. He shot a fleeing person without cause.

Then a local attorney is suing two bounty hunters for going into the wrong apartment by force, throwing a crippled man to the floor and handcuffing him even though he did not look anything like the person being sought. The subject they were looking for did not even live on that floor.

Apparently it does not take much training to become a bounty hunter these days. What I have ran across lacked common sense and intelligence.

Bounty Hunters have to pay for their own badge and that's about it. And I second your thougths about the lack of common sense and intelligence..................Too bad they're all not highly trained like The Dog!
 
Man, you gotta have some kind of self restraint! I don't think they would have left my area upright. My dogs are pretty bad, but that would be the least of their worries down here.
One day, with that attitude, they will have a very large problem. Not everyone has the kind of even temper that you have. I know I sure as hell don't.
God bless you.
gordon
 
I can't see any state giving these bozo's authority to threaten anyone with a firearm or the power to enter someone's home. If they pulled that **** at my house we would have a violent encounter. They are not law enforcement. I would start blasting and take my chances with the courts.

And that **** some posters have said about you being arrested for harboring or obstruction, is just that. A bunch of ****. Some people sure have vivid imaginations.
 
So you have two strange men with guns in thier hands are at your front and you bother to find out who they are. FOOL
 
This is a VERY perplexing thread ! But living here in the Ky sticks, The only thing I worry about is peeing off the porch and feeding my dog "Chopper"
 
You got a raw deal. Bounty hunters need to be outlawed. Only genuine law enforcement officers have any business dealing with the capture of criminals. These idiots deserve anything they get from any innocent person they bother. They are no different than the criminals they pursue.
 
So you have two strange men with guns in thier hands are at your front and you bother to find out who they are. FOOL

well FOOL, i knew they were here for the guy who used my address,not me,what is the sense of guns-a-blazing if there is no need.you seem to be like them goons at my door and just looking for a firefight.yeah,i wish that i wouldve shot them.shot them with my cell phones video camera.then it would be easy to have the goons off the streets.a bullet in the chest would just lead to a bunch of legal **** i aint that interested in,and who knows,they may have had me outgunned(i doubt it though)i am smart enough to know the difference between a real threat and some hot-headed goons looking to throw their power around.FOOLS like you,that cant tell the difference and just shoot first,make the rest of us gun toting folks look bad.
 
I see about a dozen or so of these folks a year on my mail route. Most of them are rude, crude, obnoxious, and unclean. One exception is a man/woman team that I am not even sure work together full time, they may just be after the same person and run into one another; and go after the suspect. They are well dressed, clean, courteous, offer cash for info (can't take cash or give info), and once they have someone in custody they are treated decently and spoken to respectfully.
 
It varies a little from state to state, however, very generally;

A bounty hunter may enter a property or location in which they have a resonable belief the person is present AT THAT TIME. They can not enter a property or location simply because they want to do so using, as an, excuse they believe the person is there, just to force their will. The brandishing of weapons to force entry or your compliance to allow them entry, without that reasonable belief is an unlawful act. If you told them he was in fact in jail at the time, they should have checked that out first before proceeding.

A bounty hunter has the same basic responsibilities under law in this respect as law enforcement officers. In other words they can not abuse their position or imply authority to force compliance simply because they want to do so, they need a reasonable belief. Bounty hunters do not have a "right to search" so they can't just demand entry to check and make sure. On the other hand, if the person flees through your property they can pursue up to a point. That point is the point at which "capture is not imminent" and you tell them to stop and wait for law enforcement, in other words if they spot the guy fleeing through your property and during their pursuit they spend time stopping and searching places on the property and have not captured the person within a short reasonable period of time, then their justification of immediate pursuit is not valid and all they are doing now is searching hoping to find something and that becomes an unreasonable search (in other words they can't spend an hour searching your house or property structures and still try to claim immediate pursuit), and they need to wait for law enforcement to procceed further.

Brandishing weapons like that, and trying to basically force entry or compliance through intimidation like that, created a very dangerous and imminent danger aspect to this. Anytime a weapon is brandished in associated with, or attempted, acts of this nature, an imminent danger aspect is present. The law in all 50 states recognizes an imminent danger aspect in such situations as you have described.

By the way, contrary to the various laws allowing them entry at times, the laws do not remove your rights to self defense or to, in some or most cases, still not allow entry, in such cases. Bounty hunters are not official law enforcement, and an exercise of self defense or refusal to allow entry, is not negated as it is if this were legitimate law enforcement. The laws, generally, only say they may enter (under specific or certain circumstances), but the laws do not say that you must let them enter, for example, if you have a reason to fear imminent danger or know for a truthful fact the person is not there, and in this respect they are not like law enforcement because they have no official standing under which to enforce "warranted search" so in this respect they are like ordinary citizens and when the property owner says wait, stop, or no, in these cases they need to wait, stop, or not do it. However, you also have a right, in all 50 states, to have official law enforcement on the scene as well when they show up, demand entry, or want to proceed - in this case a simple "Wait until the police arrive before you proceed." is sufficient and they are legally bound to wait for that law enforcement to arrive (make sure you actually call the police) before entering or proceeding unless the person attempts to flee and they have a reasonable belief to know that is happening. Most states have laws that require them to contact law enforcement before proceeding in the jurisdiction.

I hope you filed charges at least.
 
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