BRAND NEW 9MM SHIELD SLIDE JAM

[BigDog48]

Forgetting criticism about your poll and your whining (both of which are on-point) I expect that when you get your Shield back it will work fine if you use SAAMI spec manufacturer ammo. Like others, I suspect reloads are your problem, or caused it.

It'd be nice if everyone got off the poll issue... To be completely honest I don't really care how many people have had zero issues with their shields. I've had a Shield .40 and it had no issues at all I understand 99% of people have had no issues with their shields and that is irrelevant to why I'm posting on here! I want people's feedback so when S&W sends my broken shield back and it's still broken I can have some course of action planned out on what to check on and what to keep an eye out for on my 9mm.

I'll remember next time to exclude the poll on any post to avoid everyone and their brother from chiming in to voice that there's no option for them to vote....

 

[millejo]

1 Jam in 900+ rounds

I experienced a jam within my first box of ammo Fiocchi, it might have been my fault as I was new to the gun. I have since put over 900 rounds (mostly Perfecta $9.98 for 50 rounds at WalMart) through it and it's been flawless. Perfecta is made at same Italian plant as Fiocchi but $7 cheaper.

 

[copper509]

I have to go back to your post and this.......

"I purchased my new Shield 9mm and brought it home to give it a thorough cleaning. That same afternoon I load up the car to head to the range and put my new Shield through a little torture test so I don't encounter any weapon failure's during my qualification and gain a little trust in my new gun. With me I brought along 450 rounds of various ammunition. Remington, American Eagle, especially.... certified reloads, Winchester, Speer, Hornady Critical Defense and Hornady Critical Duty +P (which I would shoot last to ensure the gun can more than handle it).

I had that happen with my Kimber a long while back and had to use a table edge to get the slide back in battery. The issue was the reloads. The Kimber has a tight chamber so it won't handle a sloppy reload.

Have no idea what a 'certified reload; is. certified by whom? The reloader?

Could be your issue.

The reloads were department issued and certified to fire through our duty and back up weapons as range ammunition. I haven't had any issues with the reloaded ammunition in the past and none of my fellow officers have brought up any issues to my knowledge. But to rule this out completely the jamming occurred to start with while using brand new ammo (i believe Remington) so I know its nothing to do with the ammo. I also failed to mention you can almost simulate the failure by racking the slide by hand several hard times and you'll feel something hanging up.

And at least 2 Kimber's fire this ammo with no problems I know for sure.

 

[copper509]

Sorry I was unable to VOTE due to "no problems" not being among one of the voting choices. To date I have over 8400 rounds thru my Shield 9 and 450 rounds thru my Shield 40.... Not ONE single issue with either one of them.

if you are using reloads then I think it's safe to assume that is your problem. The only reloads I use are from Freedom Munitions.

Problem occurred about 250 rounds prior to cycling any of the reloads through, so clearly not the issue...

 

[copper509]

Forgetting criticism about your poll and your whining (both of which are on-point) I expect that when you get your Shield back it will work fine if you use SAAMI spec manufacturer ammo. Like others, I suspect reloads are your problem, or caused it.

Problem occurred about 250 rounds prior to cycling any of the reloads through, so clearly not the issue...

 

[Rastoff]

Are they reloads or re-manufactured loads? Big difference. One is made in someone's basement and the other is made exactly the same as factory new, but using already fired brass.

 

[copper509]

Are they reloads or re-manufactured loads? Big difference. One is made in someone's basement and the other is made exactly the same as factory new, but using already fired brass.

They must be what you call remanufactured rounds. We get them at my pd by the pallet from California. They come in red boxes with no identifiers.

 

[Saudade]

Epic fail. No option for bacon.

 

[copper509]

S&W factory should be contacting me today or on Monday regarding my shield. I'll keep you posted sir.

 

[Stratajema]

The reloads were department issued and certified to fire through our duty and back up weapons as range ammunition. I haven't had any issues with the reloaded ammunition in the past...

The reloads are not the source of the problem where the barrel is locked up and needs to be hit in order for the gun to go back into battery. In gun forums, posters tend to blame problems on everything but the gun. (e.g. the shooter's grip, reloads, lack of lube, etc.)

Quite simply, there is an out of spec component in your Shield: locking lugs, barrel, alignment of rails, possibly even the diameter of the barrel hole on the slide. S&W needs to take the time to figure out which part is out of spec. Most often it is the barrel because of the angle of the cuts and the roughness of the cuts in the locking area.

 

[Smoke52]

Another here with NO issues whatsoever! I was working on shooting the Shield and never cleaning it until a failure of some sort occurred. There was never a failure of any kind up to around 500 rounds. It deserved a cleaning at that point and has YET to malfunction clean or dirty.

 

[Gunsnwater]

Forgetting criticism about your poll and your whining (both of which are on-point) I expect that when you get your Shield back it will work fine if you use SAAMI spec manufacturer ammo. Like others, I suspect reloads are your problem, or caused it.

Well I didn't like the OP's attitude either. I also think its wrong if people here don't read what the OP actually posted and come down on him for using reloads that he didn't use. He specifically stated that he only used factory ammunition. He brought reloads but he never got a chance to use them.

 

[Gunsnwater]

Problem occurred about 250 rounds prior to cycling any of the reloads through, so clearly not the issue...

Wait a minute so your first post was BS that it didn't happen in the first 7 rounds but 250. So it was reloads I assume and now your waiting to get it back "broken" and you want others to backup your point of view.

My shields work fine. I couldn't vote in your flawed poll.

 

[Steve912]

I also failed to mention you can almost simulate the failure by racking the slide by hand several hard times and you'll feel something hanging up.

Try hand-cycling slide on receiver without recoil spring/guide or barrel. If slide binds on receiver in full rearward travel, check for clearance of slide/FRP frame in the dustcover region of the frame.

 

[Shielded]

Another no vote, no issues.

 

[Rastoff]

They must be what you call remanufactured rounds. We get them at my pd by the pallet from California. They come in red boxes with no identifiers.

OK, so you don't know. Just because they come on a pallet doesn't mean they aren't reloads. I highly suggest you find out what they are.

Also, the boxes or pallet must be marked with something. At a minimum they must have caliber and bullet weight on them.

 

[Dano]

Sorry could not vote, I have three 9mm Shields and never an issue.

I have 2, one 9mm and one 40S&W and have never had an issue
with either. The 9 is my wife's OWB carry and she has weak wrists
and has a good 1000 rounds thru hers and never a hiccup. I don't
shoot the 40 that much preferring my 9c, but have a couple
hundred rnds thru it at least and no problems. Even put 1/2 a
dozen 9mm rounds it once (long story) and it actually functioned
for 5, failing to eject one the 6th.
Should have had a poll question addressing no failures too.
Dano

 

[copper509]

Wait a minute so your first post was BS that it didn't happen in the first 7 rounds but 250. So it was reloads I assume and now your waiting to get it back "broken" and you want others to backup your point of view.

My shields work fine. I couldn't vote in your flawed poll.

If you would've read my post then you would know that the FIRST time I wen't out and shot it, I only fired a handful of rounds through it because it would jam nearly every time fired. I sent it back and it was supposedly repaired and after receiving the gun back and going out to shoot the SECOND time it would still jam but not as often so I decided to cycle all the ammo I had with me that day to see if I could break the gun in and possibly fix the problem but even after firing over 400 rounds of various ammunition the gun still malfunctions. So I sent my gun back in for a second time and am still waiting for an answer from them.... Thanks for opening your mouth before reading everything.....

 

[copper509]

The reloads are not the source of the problem where the barrel is locked up and needs to be hit in order for the gun to go back into battery. In gun forums, posters tend to blame problems on everything but the gun. (e.g. the shooter's grip, reloads, lack of lube, etc.)

Quite simply, there is an out of spec component in your Shield: locking lugs, barrel, alignment of rails, possibly even the diameter of the barrel hole on the slide. S&W needs to take the time to figure out which part is out of spec. Most often it is the barrel because of the angle of the cuts and the roughness of the cuts in the locking area.

Thank you for the response, this is the feedback i'm looking for!

 

[copper509]

OK, so you don't know. Just because they come on a pallet doesn't mean they aren't reloads. I highly suggest you find out what they are.

Also, the boxes or pallet must be marked with something. At a minimum they must have caliber and bullet weight on them.

I am being told that they are indeed re manufactured reloads. I asked my department firearms instructor and he stated due to liability they only supply us with "certified re manufactured reloads" and so you're aware there is no identifiers on the boxes. When the pallets arrive there is labeling on tags but as the ammo is stocked in our armory we don't see those tags we only see the blank red boxes of ammo in designated areas like 380, 9mm, 40, 45.