Brazilian Contract 1917 Question

[steelslaver]

I have bought a number of Brazilians. Two of them had mismatched cylinders to frame numbers, I posted a thread on it and while not normal far from unusual. I believe most of those were mix mastered by the Brazilians, Yours probably got the cylinder swap at the same time the barrel was replace and it was refinished. But, supposedly many of them came back to the states around 1990, then were sold cheap on the second hand market. There were also lots of parts available. Shotgun News comes top mind. Lots of them ended up being modified, chopped barrels etc. I got one around that time and made up my very first 45 colt using a 357 cylinder from a model 28. I think I paid around $135 at the time. They are currently worth about $500 if functional. Very few are in high condition and those you prefer guns with a nice finish seldom want any of them even if completely stock.


I have several modified Brazilians. All still 45, but mostly 45 colts using reamed 44 mag cylinders. I still have one I have not molested, but it has a mismatched cylinder.

I recently bought one off a forum member and am going to turn it into my version of a PRC gun.

cause this thread need pictures

 

[BC38]

I don't know what it would sell for - it would not be a $500 piece to me.

Might not be to a lot of people.

On the other hand I've often heard it said around here that pretty much any functional N frame is worth $500, so if you get one for less you're getting a bargain.

If I didn't already have a couple of 1917s and a Brazilian I'd probably be somewhat interested at that price.

Though of course I'd try to negotiate a discount.

 

[Retired W4]

I don't know if my friend would sell it. I do know I want to shoot it.

 

[StrawHat]

This is the definitive answer to the SN question. 191982.

Thank you. That does answer my question.

Kevin

 

[Model19man]

So I bought a Model 1937 Brazillian around 1990. It was a "better than average" one, cost something like $180 back then. The dealer told me he pulled it and 199 similar revolvers from a barrel full of grease. Mine was a tack driver with 45 FMJ rounds and a S&W full round clip. Wish I had kept it, I foolishly traded that revolver for a Thompson Model 1911 that was a horrible shooter.

 

[Muley Gil]

I'm guessing the serial number on the back of the ejector star doesn't match that cylinder serial number.

 

[StrawHat]

The image posted by Retired W4,

https://smith-wessonforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=686606&d=1719446155

My INA barrel is on the top,

Here is the other side, the INA barrel is still on top,

To me, it appears the L C is a different font and hand stamped.

Kevin

 

[Retired W4]

In reference to my post #18, does it look to anyone that the cylinder extractor pins (S&W part #5014) are missing?

 

[Truckman]

In reference to my post #18, does it look to anyone that the cylinder extractor pins (S&W part #5014) are missing?

It does, and one of the pin holes in the extractor looks wallowed out suggesting one pin may have been lost for a number of shootings before the other fell out......Ben

 

[Retired W4]

It does, and one of the pin holes in the extractor looks wallowed out suggesting one pin may have been lost for a number of shootings before the other fell out......Ben

Thanks Ben. I will see if I have those pins for my buddy's gun before we shoot it. Hopefully there are no other problems with it. I won't know until I have it in hand.

 

[StrawHat]

Thanks Ben. I will see if I have those pins for my buddy's gun before we shoot it. Hopefully there are no other problems with it. I won't know until I have it in hand.

A fairly easy fix, even if you don't have the factory pins.

Kevin

 

[BC38]

In reference to my post #18, does it look to anyone that the cylinder extractor pins (S&W part #5014) are missing?

It does, and one of the pin holes in the extractor looks wallowed out suggesting one pin may have been lost for a number of shootings before the other fell out......Ben

That's probably why the star is slightly out of alignment too...

 

[Retired W4]

That's probably why the star is slightly out of alignment too...

Yes, and that's why I want that fixed before shooting it.

 

[StrawHat]

Yes, and that's why I want that fixed before shooting it.

Dropping cartridges into the chambers will automatically align the star. If you need to drill to replace the pins, drop all six in to stabilize the star.

Kevin