Building an arsenal.....
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hangnoose
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BUILDING AN ARSENAL?
1'st Welcome to the site. Secondly I'm nobody to judge, but certainly will. It sounds like a lot of guns & redundancy for someone that doesn't shoot "much". I can only shoot 1 rifle at a time & couldn't possibly bug out with my entire stable of "working" guns. If you are planning on some end of days scenario, you would need a fortress/bunker/soldiers/food/water to protect them & hold out for long, while having way too many to bug out with. I would advise (for right now) slow down on the buying & spend LOT'S of time shooting & reloading. Having all 223's & only 308 ammo would stink. I would certainly diversify a bit & focus on being able to keep however many AR's (or whatever) you decide on, running (with spare parts & repair knowledge), & not getting ahead of yourself.
1'st Welcome to the site. Secondly I'm nobody to judge, but certainly will. It sounds like a lot of guns & redundancy for someone that doesn't shoot "much". I can only shoot 1 rifle at a time & couldn't possibly bug out with my entire stable of "working" guns. If you are planning on some end of days scenario, you would need a fortress/bunker/soldiers/food/water to protect them & hold out for long, while having way too many to bug out with. I would advise (for right now) slow down on the buying & spend LOT'S of time shooting & reloading. Having all 223's & only 308 ammo would stink. I would certainly diversify a bit & focus on being able to keep however many AR's (or whatever) you decide on, running (with spare parts & repair knowledge), & not getting ahead of yourself.
Maddmax
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Just have to wait for the next anti gun/ban scare and all the panic buyers to pop up again...
Prices go up quicker than they come down.
Magload
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My two ARs are enough now I and starting to collect uppers in different calibers that I am interested in. That is the nice part about a AR15 today it is a 223/556 and tomorrow it becomes a 300 Blackout or maybe a 6.5 Grendel or you can even go bigger. 16" barrel this week a 24 next week. Don
Maddmax
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That's about how I feel too. Seen people waist allot of money trading back and forth trying to keep up with the latest trends, then completely change directions mid-stream. My many hobbies are now my retirement entertainment.
My affair with the black rifle began in the early 90's when I bought 2 full-size Colt Sporter HBAR's and a Colt Sporter Lightweight (all pre-ban). Purchase price 550-600 each. The next year, I bought a new Green R6520 "Colt AR15 A2 Gov't Carbine" right before the ban, I believe. $750 if memory serves. In pristine condition and original configuration, these have sharply increased in value.
I sold the 2 HBARS on GB a few years ago for close to $2000 each. The Lightweight Sporter remains my favorite child to this day. I replaced the A2 stock with a mil-spec buffertube assembly (properly staked, of course), a collapsible stock also adding a tritium front post and tritium 2-dot dual rear aperture. The carbine is very lightweight, simple and it's the most familiar gun I own.
So yeah... I can see some purpose in buying a few of the same model firearm that may be considered controversial by some as long as you don't miss the money. Not admitting anything but if the price was right, maybe buying something like 6 or 8 Colt LE6920 carbines back in 2012-13 when they were shipping with the detachable carry handles and Rogers Super-Stocs might not have been all that bad of a thing especially if you kept them new/unused in the box.
Also for the fun of it, maybe buying a couple hundred used GI alum 30-rounders for next to nothing, inspecting, lightly sanding with a 3M pad, washing, renewing the outside coating with Perma Slik and then finding a good deal on a bunch of no-tilt followers and individual packing bags. I'm sure one doesn't need that many $6 magazines but rainy days come and go.
I sold the 2 HBARS on GB a few years ago for close to $2000 each. The Lightweight Sporter remains my favorite child to this day. I replaced the A2 stock with a mil-spec buffertube assembly (properly staked, of course), a collapsible stock also adding a tritium front post and tritium 2-dot dual rear aperture. The carbine is very lightweight, simple and it's the most familiar gun I own.
So yeah... I can see some purpose in buying a few of the same model firearm that may be considered controversial by some as long as you don't miss the money. Not admitting anything but if the price was right, maybe buying something like 6 or 8 Colt LE6920 carbines back in 2012-13 when they were shipping with the detachable carry handles and Rogers Super-Stocs might not have been all that bad of a thing especially if you kept them new/unused in the box.
Also for the fun of it, maybe buying a couple hundred used GI alum 30-rounders for next to nothing, inspecting, lightly sanding with a 3M pad, washing, renewing the outside coating with Perma Slik and then finding a good deal on a bunch of no-tilt followers and individual packing bags. I'm sure one doesn't need that many $6 magazines but rainy days come and go.
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My point wasn't that 7 guns is an "arsenal" or big "collection". My point was to show that I am serious about accumulating a large cache of firearms. Part of that is showing that in under 2 years I went from having ZERO firearms to 7. Thus, I am off to a decent start.
Honestly, my big picture goal isn't really to buy a bunch of guns and sell them for money later on for a profit. Unless I hit retirement age and have a serious financial pitfall or fall out and I have no other choice.
My long term goal is to have a cache of AR's that may not even be shot for the next 2 or 3 decades after the initial purchase and break in. They will sit in a safe either at my house or at my sister in laws place awaiting the "Terminator Judgement Day" scenario.....
Once I build up that cache, I will then focus on "cool to have" firearms and collection type items
Also, I don't have a huge interest in building AR's etc. I'm really not wired that way. That may change at some point but I am just not much of a mechanically inclined person.
That may be difficult for some folks in gun forums to understand or relate to.
I simply want to aquire and prepare.
HaHa. yeah, that would be awkward!
We do already have the "invitation". Pretty close with them. In fact, we will be at Mardi Gras with them next month!!
The bare bones plan is already in place and our children have instructions if something hits the fan, such as Yellow Stone erupting for example, to get there.
We partially contribute to their current efforts with some shared canning and raising of some livestock. We currently have a couple calves being raised by them that we will butcher and share.
We haven't gone "all in" by any means but it is certainly something we have started slowly working towards.
Question for you: Do you believe attaching the light to the weapon is a good idea? I originally attached mine to the gun but decided I wasn't necessarily comfortable pointing the gun at things just to see.
My thought on this has evolved to having a light on the weapon as a back up but having a small light to carry in the other hand.
Not trying to hijack my own thread so I didn't want to derail into other topics. Obviously there are tons of places to find answers to this but I was curious on your opinion
I like diversity in my rifle's. I have 1 S&W M&P 15 T, 1 Springfield Ultra Match, 1 Remington 5 R, 1 Steyr AUG 16", 1 Browning .22lr. Sold all the others, they just take up to much space. Leaves more room for my handguns.
Hey, it's your thread....... go where you want to go.
Don't plan on doing any house clearing......but ya I've got a light on my Beretta CX-4 and on a Beretta 92.(Streamlight TLR-1 on the carbine and a TLR-3 on the handgun) cus you have to ID something and everything you might want to break....... but I also have a regular flashlight for just looking.
blues7
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I think having a weapon light on a long gun helps. (I use a handheld Surefire for my pistols or revolver.)
There is sufficient spill from the light to identify a person / target by pointing in the area without aiming directly at center of mass.
I don't think I'd want to operate my shotgun or rifle one handed if I had the ability to mount a small light such as the Streamlight TLR-1 HL I have mounted on the M&P15. (Surefire forend/light on the 870.)
JaPes
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In general, yes I do. Because I need to use two hands to operate a long gun, mounting a light to a long gun is the only option. On a handgun, it's debatable. I swing between the two schools of thought. Because of that, I practice with both a weapon mounted light and a hand held light.
Comrad
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Seems to me the light on the end of your rifle helps the bad guy aim to return fire. Do they make a lens that looks like a bullseye?
I see lots of lights on guns run by SWAT and the military. But then again, what do they know . . .
blues7
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Comrad, you might think that but in reality the numbers don't seem to bear it out. I have trained SRT with my own agency as well as SAS, SEALS, GSG-9, and numerous other state and local agencies. Each utilized mounted weapon lights on a variety of firearms.
You probably have a much better chance of disorienting and potentially disabling a bad guy with a burst of brilliant light than have him immediately return fire on your weapon light.
Light up the threat with a quick flash, move and take appropriate action per the circumstances. You know your home terrain better than your foe. Use that knowledge to your advantage.
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JaPes
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Just because I have a light on my firearm does not mean I have to employ the light. I can choose when I employ and where I aim that bright light.
They also typically have hard plate body armor...
All I'm saying is that I am not military nor SWAT. My survival strategy is as a civilian. I'm not looking to get into a running gun fight. I'm looking to use cover, evade, and escape. I'm doing anything I can to diminish my target profile. Because I'm not wearing body armor, a kevlar helmet, with a medical corpsman or Paramedics on standby, I have to be thoughtful and careful in the application of my light/laser.
Everyone has to figure it out for themselves and do what they think is best.
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