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If you're asking if there's a bore sighter for every bullet shape, the answer is no. If you're asking if there's one for either the .223 or 5.56 x 45 mm cartridge, the answer is yes.
Like all bore sighters, they'll get you in the ball park. Unless a higher power smiles upon you, they won't get you exactly on target.
Like all bore sighters, they'll get you in the ball park. Unless a higher power smiles upon you, they won't get you exactly on target.
Kadonny
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Agreed but mine didnt' even get me in the ballpark. Years ago I tried one. Sighted in my red dot at home looking down my 25 yard (approx) hallway with the laser bore sight. Took the AR to the range and missed the paper alltogther at 50 yards. Now we all know I should be off a few inches from 25 to 50 yards, but I was not even on the paper! That was the last time I used the thing.
I now just hillbilly site in a new optic at home then take it to the range to fine tune. The hillbilly way has worked for me as it always gets me on paper. Moral of the story, fancy things that are supposed to make things easier sometimes don't.
Ivan the Butcher
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As bizarre as it sounds; there is more to sighting in an optic on a firearm, than where the bore is pointing! Barrel whip is the first that comes to mind. Second is "Bedding" (fore end pressure on barrel) I had a pencil barrel CAR from the 90's that the second shot at 25 yards was 19" higher than the first! The third shot from a cold start was over 36" high. The 2 piece hand guard was a major factor. The pieces were over 1/8" different in length! The thin barrel couldn't overcome the force of the upward torque!
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Kadonny
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Thats all true, but it doesn't help when trying to zero in an optic. Bench rest the gun, align the optic with the bore at whatever distance you want zero and go from there. That's how you have to do it. Once that is done if you have factors that affect accuracy based on what was described above, those are issues that need to be addressed if you want any type of accuracy at all.
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AManWearingAHat
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You dont need one if you have a decent rest at your range. Take your rifle, take the bolt out (or upper off for AR platforms). Secure it well with a friends help or with some sandbags. Sight your target through the barrel on the 25 or 50 yard line. Without disturbing the rifle, look through your optic of choice and adjust it so your reticle or dot is on the same target. Look through the bore again to ensure alignment. Voila, your first shot is on paper. Fine tune from there.
Alternatively, for AR's that have a co-witness with back up irons. If your irons are zeroed and you're adding a red dot, flip up your irons, look through them through your red dot. Adjust your red dot so the top edge of the front sight blade cuts it in half and the dot is centered on the post, voila, your red dot is zeroed to the same spot as your irons.
Alternatively, for AR's that have a co-witness with back up irons. If your irons are zeroed and you're adding a red dot, flip up your irons, look through them through your red dot. Adjust your red dot so the top edge of the front sight blade cuts it in half and the dot is centered on the post, voila, your red dot is zeroed to the same spot as your irons.
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Kadonny
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Exactly what I described above, I call that hillbilly zero. Works every time.
AManWearingAHat
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My apologies, I don't always thoroughly read everything before I post. I must have skimmed your post a bit too quickly
sgtsandman
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The only thing I buy a laser bore sight for is something with a closed action that you can't see through the receiver and the barrel. Like say a Ruger 10/22 as an example.
